stud walls - window surrounds

Jarveye · Post by **Jarveye** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:50 pm

Im currently revovating a period property and have taken on building stud partitions where the layout has changed significantly, i had the help of a friend who was a joiner, unfortunatley things havent worked out and he is unable to help me so ive decided to have a go myself.

problem:

im framing out a room which was lath and plaster which has been gutted to the bare stone, im re-framign it with CLS timber and have reached a window, here is an example i found on the internet which is similar to what im after (the example is bigger than what i will be attempting)

im sure i could manage to frame it out quite basically, just wanted to do it right and i dont see any DIY sites which explain how to tackle framing parts like this.

Mr Mike · Post by **Mr Mike** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:14 pm

I would imagine probably because that's not the most common DIY task requested to be fair.

These are essentially frame and panel panels.....

There must be info online on how to make 'frame and panel' cabinet doors.....what you see in the photo above are just variations on this.

You could achieve similar results, by making basic shaker style frame and panels, and applying an off the shelf ogee panel mould to the inside of the frames.

You could even really cheat, and just make them from 18mm MDF, laminate 9mm MDF on top to create the panel effect, and fix ogee panel mould into the rebates.

Or you could spend some time learning how to create tight fitting mortice and tenon framing joints, and how to work profile and scribe router cutter sets.....

Mr Mike · Post by **Mr Mike** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:22 pm

Just a thought....

If you're serious about attempting this then buy a copy of :

Modern Practical Joinery by George Ellis.

I work in a lot of Georgian and Victorian period homes, and it's an invaluable book for me.

Jarveye · Post by **Jarveye** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:02 pm

its not even the panelling im talking about, just the stud frame behind it in:

\________/ shape

any examples of how to deal with a window when making a stud partition/wall dont seem to cover this, i even looked for tutorials for bay windows as i thought they might be similar

Mr Mike · Post by **Mr Mike** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:09 pm

There is no 'stud' frame behind those panels. It's just a framed lining. Similar to that of a decorative door casing or door lining.

The panelling may be fixed to grounds behind that are just light frames nailed to wooden plugs set in the brickwork behind.

Jarveye · Post by **Jarveye** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:06 am

right ok, that sounds pretty much like what was removed, except that part of the building had been roughly upgraded and it was actual plasterboard and not wooden paneling.

whats the correct name for this and is there any online tutorials on how to do this? it's just the method of building the frame im instrested in getting right, whether i use plasterboard or attempt to re-create the panelling isnt important at this stage

Mr Mike · Post by **Mr Mike** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:02 am

You could try a search for 'grounds' or 'framed grounds'.

Traditionally they were wedged mortice & tenoned ladder frames using thin sectioned timber.

Just screw your frame components together.....as you would when making your stud walls.