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External Door lock how to calculate?
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External Door lock how to calculate?
Hello
I have a night latch and i have got some handles (see pics) but i don't know which/how to calculate what size 5 lever mortice lock i need?
how do i calculate where the key hole goes and where the door handle square bit, and get the correct mortice lock?
anyone help? 57MM, 63MM???
I have a night latch and i have got some handles (see pics) but i don't know which/how to calculate what size 5 lever mortice lock i need?
how do i calculate where the key hole goes and where the door handle square bit, and get the correct mortice lock?
anyone help? 57MM, 63MM???
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ok in my diagram looking at it would be 93mm (71mm+ 62-40) like you said but obviously iare there standard sizes for these locks?
e.g 57, 63, 73, 80, 93mm??
for example screwfix only has these:
http://www.screwfix.com/cats/A359606/Se ... -Sashlocks
e.g 57, 63, 73, 80, 93mm??
for example screwfix only has these:
http://www.screwfix.com/cats/A359606/Se ... -Sashlocks
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The only handle i have seen with a standard keyhole is for the new era vectris multipoint lock that has a 5 lever lock instead of a euro cylinder.But like i mentioned before you can only use these handles with the appropriate lock which in this case is the era vectris multipoint lock.
If you want a 5 lever lock you need standard handles or you can go down the vectris route and route out the whole side of the door to fit it.
If you want a 5 lever lock you need standard handles or you can go down the vectris route and route out the whole side of the door to fit it.
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Hi mstar,
I don't know if you have been sorted on this yet.
The handle you show is for a 70PZ Ferco multi point door lock. The way to check this is to measure the spindle square and if it is 7mm then its for a Ferco lock.
As previous posters have said you will probably require a lock with a 92mm PZ and that said you will need a new handle.
I know of two trade suppliers who may be able to help with a KFV 49PZW lock and the other one will be a Fuhr mortice lock with euro profile cylinder cut out.
see here for the KFV lock http://www.mila.co.uk/49_PZW_Mortice_Lock.aspx
and try here for the Fuhr one.
http://www.carlf.co.uk/products_doorbolts.html
open page and click on the file for 'universal lock 803'
both these supplier operate a trade account only policy ( i think) but it might be worth contacting them to find out or you might be able to order via a local locksmith.
Hope this helps
PS. you will require a Euro profile cylinder as well and this type of lock will not meet the minimum security requirements as laid down by the Association of British Insurers (ABI)
I don't know if you have been sorted on this yet.
The handle you show is for a 70PZ Ferco multi point door lock. The way to check this is to measure the spindle square and if it is 7mm then its for a Ferco lock.
As previous posters have said you will probably require a lock with a 92mm PZ and that said you will need a new handle.
I know of two trade suppliers who may be able to help with a KFV 49PZW lock and the other one will be a Fuhr mortice lock with euro profile cylinder cut out.
see here for the KFV lock http://www.mila.co.uk/49_PZW_Mortice_Lock.aspx
and try here for the Fuhr one.
http://www.carlf.co.uk/products_doorbolts.html
open page and click on the file for 'universal lock 803'
both these supplier operate a trade account only policy ( i think) but it might be worth contacting them to find out or you might be able to order via a local locksmith.
Hope this helps
PS. you will require a Euro profile cylinder as well and this type of lock will not meet the minimum security requirements as laid down by the Association of British Insurers (ABI)
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ok i wanted to ask people, normally am i correct in saying for a timber front door you normally have nightlatch (with door pull) and a mortice 5 lever lock below. possibly a door knob if the door pull is to small.
that would solve my problem getting handles and keeping the night latch?
as i was thinking have locable door handles would mean u turn the door handle then get the key out for the night latch and together turn to enter the house.
that would solve my problem getting handles and keeping the night latch?
as i was thinking have locable door handles would mean u turn the door handle then get the key out for the night latch and together turn to enter the house.
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You are right but it depends on personal taste which way you do it.mstar wrote:ok i wanted to ask people, normally am i correct in saying for a timber front door you normally have nightlatch (with door pull) and a mortice 5 lever lock below. possibly a door knob if the door pull is to small.
that would solve my problem getting handles and keeping the night latch?
as i was thinking have locable door handles would mean u turn the door handle then get the key out for the night latch and together turn to enter the house.
Not sure what you mean by lockable handles, do you mean a sash lock ? What ever you fit make sure one of the locks has a kite mark on the face plate so you keep the insurance company happy.
At present the union strong bolt is a very good value quality lock.
Whatever you do do not buy an era fortress as they are trouble due to quality control issues.
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