What A Sad Day

IDontBelieveIt · Post by **IDontBelieveIt** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:24 pm

Up to now my Mac has ben just fine, wonderful even.

But now it looks like OSX is going to be plagued like MS Windoze tack

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7760344.stm

Foggy · Post by **Foggy** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:04 pm

yeah but there is nothing like a good virus to keep you on your toes and to use your pc skills on getting rid of it

Hoovie · Post by **Hoovie** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:42 pm

I think there is only solution.

use that Apple MAC while it is still working to search for a good Windows box

IDontBelieveIt · Post by **IDontBelieveIt** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:13 pm

Hoovie wrote:I think there is only solution.

use that Apple MAC while it is still working to search for a good Windows box

What!!

Go wash ya mouth out with carbolic soap Hoovie

PS. My new Windoze PC at work at work has the following problems -

1. Takes ages to boot up and even then comes up in 'safe mode'

2. Never shuts down when I want it to and have to turn the power off to the ferking thing

3. It is SLOW slow and snail moves faster.

4. When I access the web for the first time the program 'ceases to respond'

5. Ctrl-Alt-Del (used to save my sanity) does not work properly and takes AGES to terminate the 'Not Responding" application.

6. Takes a lifetime to load Excel.

7. I get more general protection faults than I have had hot dinners.

8.......

.......

5,678. THe screen saver does not work properly

It is just about ONE year old. My Apple iMac is nearly 5 years old and I don't have any of the above problems on my Mac.

Over to you Hoovie....

Hoovie · Post by **Hoovie** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:17 pm

I give in

I reckon the virus thing is just a aspect of popularity (not popular popularity, just weight of numbers).

Now Apple seems to be making significant in-roads, it was inevitable they would appear in greater numbers I think

IDontBelieveIt · Post by **IDontBelieveIt** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:58 pm

Hoovie wrote:I give in

:

lol Hoovie, you know me!!

CalamatyDan · Post by **CalamatyDan** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:14 pm

IDontBelieveIt wrote:
Hoovie wrote:I think there is only solution.

use that Apple MAC while it is still working to search for a good Windows box
What!!

Go wash ya mouth out with carbolic soap Hoovie

PS. My new Windoze PC at work at work has the following problems -

1. Takes ages to boot up and even then comes up in 'safe mode'

2. Never shuts down when I want it to and have to turn the power off to the ferking thing

3. It is SLOW slow and snail moves faster.

4. When I access the web for the first time the program 'ceases to respond'

5. Ctrl-Alt-Del (used to save my sanity) does not work properly and takes AGES to terminate the 'Not Responding" application.

6. Takes a lifetime to load Excel.

7. I get more general protection faults than I have had hot dinners.

8.......

.......

5,678. THe screen saver does not work properly

It is just about ONE year old. My Apple iMac is nearly 5 years old and I don't have any of the above problems on my Mac.

Over to you Hoovie....

My turn to help..

This is an easy one, and I'm not anti mac before you ask.

Mac software doesn't really change a lot. it works so why change it. (also because most companies design pc software due to the market share pc's have)

PC software changes daily (especially Microsoft (internet explorer, word, excel etc)

here's the kicker...every time a company updates the software they do it to current standards in technology. so if 3 gig of ram is the norm, they will streamline it to run at optimum on 3 gig of ram . if you only had 1 gig 1 year ago, your gonna start to see lags, and slowdowns until u upgrade to 3.

it's a bit like a car. u buy a car and gradually new bits come out and make it better, but the engine always stays the same. eventually it cant cope and you have to get a new engine. (that's as simple as i can put it but it's true!)

so to put bluntly. macs aren't better, they are just progressing slower making them more stable
pc's aren't better either. they are just progressing too fast to keep up

IDontBelieveIt · Post by **IDontBelieveIt** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:20 am

"PC software changes daily (especially Microsoft (internet explorer, wo"

It needs to it is bug ridden!!

My now quite old Apple G5 at home gives me no problems at all. It boots up quickly and it closes down quickly. Programs load quickly and are intuitive. get no protection faults (a 8086 derivative problem that has been inherent within Windoze since day one and still with us today),.

My almost new Windoze based PC at work (one year old) is appalling. I switch on in the morning, I pop off make a mug off coffee, drink that, go to the bog and have my morning crap. Get back and Windoze might, and I mean MIGHT, have loaded.

Applications take ages to load. The day is full of Cnrtl-Alt-Del key actions!

At night when I want to go home, "Start" (and that is a joke), shut down no longer works. The ONLY thunk that shuts the bloody thing down is to turn off the power by holding down the main switch. A bag of old poo and Windoze has always been a bag of old poo.

Also, being an ex-assemble programmer for some 30 odd years (with some C and Visual C thrown in). In the good old days when writing programs 80% of ones project time was writing code that was reliable and testing for every error condition and 20% writing the actual application. I honestly believe that MS do not test their software at all, they just release it to get in the Almighty Dollars and let the customer debug the software.

thescruff · Post by **thescruff** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:59 am

I gather you are not a fan of Mr Gates IDBI

Have you tried the windows U enter to shut down.

I love my Mac, even though I have to use Windozzzz as well.

IDontBelieveIt · Post by **IDontBelieveIt** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:36 am

Spot on Scruff, most of MS products are total garbage.

It is actually worse than that - MS acquired the software authors of what we know today as Excel, Word (based on Wordstar back in the late 70's) and then promptlhy buggered them up!! Just like their so-called operating system Windoze.

And when it comes to the origins of 'Windoze' do bear in mind that the 'wimp' (windows and mouse pointer) system was originally developed by Xerox Corp, but they did not see any future in it and it was adopted by Apple Corp and YEARS after that MS took it up when they moved away from MSDOS. It was Apple that first brought the windows (not Windows!) based system to the general public along with Sun Microsystems.

Yes Scruff I have tried all, my next step is to HAVE to reload Windows on my PC at work - something I have never had to do on my Apple G5 running OSX. I have actually got better things to do.

Finally when the (new) systems at work eventually keel over, that should take about another 6 months at this rate. Then they are all being replaced with Apple computers.

Rant over for now

DIY_Johnny · Post by **DIY_Johnny** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:34 pm

perhaps your OS needs a service pack update? Also remember a newer OS will run considerable slower on old hardware due to the multitude of backround process that windoes needs to run.

I take it you have done a disk defrag, disk utilities software run etc

Also, I have a problem years that my DDR II ram was not plugged in fully so not detected.

I have a love hate relationship with Microsoft products

Was microsoft certified visual studio developer in a former life (or should I say microsoft certified saddo ha ha)

Totally agree at one stage a writing a Test script was an enoromus task!

IDontBelieveIt · Post by **IDontBelieveIt** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:26 pm

NewbieJohn wrote:perhaps your OS needs a service pack update? Also remember a newer OS will run considerable slower on old hardware due to the multitude of backround process that windoes needs to run.

LOL h geezz I have heard it all now. Yes. The age old joke about MS Windoze is that Gates had massive investment in hardware, especially memory chips and that this old chestnut about needed ever and ever more memory come as now surprise!! Cynical? Yup.

I take it you have done a disk defrag, disk utilities software run etc

Good God!! err yes. I am hardly a new comer to tacky Windoze!! Index Sequential file management is not new to me

Also, I have a problem years that my DDR II ram was not plugged in fully so not detected.

I have a love hate relationship with Microsoft products Was microsoft certified visual studio developer in a former life (or should I say microsoft certified saddo ha ha)

In my case it is more (justifed) hate than anything else and for good reason - it IS total garbage!

Totally agree at one stage a writing a Test script was an enoromus task

Agreed it is and because Gates wanted to shove more and more Dollars into his back pocket he, agreed cleverly, thought I can get the users to debug the crap that my company creates, I make all the money and they do all the work for free!

Like me Apple and OSX and will stick to it to the end of my days and wave bye bye to the hassles of trying using tacky MS Windoze both here at home and at work. Windoze is a so-called Operating System best suited to housewives so they can do their shopping over the net. And that is it!!

DIY_Johnny · Post by **DIY_Johnny** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:32 pm

When I got my PC a few years ago I thought 4GB was more than enough, how wrong I was!

Noid · Post by **Noid** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:30 pm

PC's are better!
If you have problems then that's precisely it....YOU have problems.

I've had PC's for years and never had so much as a glitch with them, if you keep good care of them then they last. If you do nothing and clog them up with crap programs and let them get ridden with spyware and viruses and do nothing to stop it then like anything it will eventually cease to work!

Mac's are so damn boring and the functionality is seemingly designed for children with no more life in them that one of them little pretend laptop things. If i was 5 and wanted a computer I'd be happy with a mac but if i actually wanted to do anything with it I'd be screwed as an adult!

Just to point out, that this is my opinion and obviously not based on any facts what so ever and merely an educated speculation.

thescruff · Post by **thescruff** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:33 pm

Not a very educated one Noid.

I can do anything that you can do, only twice as fast.