Adding longer external phone line

[mattk35]

Hi all, I know that your not permitted to move your BT main socket and wouldn't for a minute break any rules but say for instance somone did.
Say they moved it from the lounge to the bedroom above and they cut the wire shorter as there was alot of excess. Then for instance there wife decided to change her mind again and want it back in the lounge, could somone put a longer length of external wire from the little box on there fascia board back to the main socket in the lounge? Would there be any risks? and what sort of wire would they need to purchase?
And, in the screwfix catalogue there are different types of internal phone wire i.e 2pair 4core, 3pair 6core and 4pair which is best for using on other extension sockets in the house.
This of course is all hypothetical!!!

[thescruff]

What you should have done is left the master where it was and run a slave upstairs.

Of course hypothetically you could reverse that arrangement

[mattk35]

The reason why this was done was that I was told that my modem should be plugged in to the master socket so as the computer was in the bedroom i thought i would move the master socket.
Two months later when the computer packs up, we get a wireless laptop which is mostly used in the lounge as is the xbox 360 (which needs to be plugged into the master socket to go online) so hence the reason for wanting to move it again.
If only i'd put the excess wire under the floor boards

[Hoovie]

have you actually tried using the extension socket for it and it hasn't worked, or you are just going by the instructions?

I personally doubt very much if it should matter

[mattk35]

Haven't tried the extension yet, was under the impression from a friend that you needed it all to come off the master socket for full strength on the broadband?

[Hoovie]

I guess you may loose a few KBs?

Here is my suggestion ...

Plug in your router into the master socket, and then run a speedtest at various times of the day
This is a good test - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ - there are others.

So this for a couple of days and note the results (if you register (for free) on the above site, it will keep a record for you, as long as you login before running the test)

Then move the router to the lounge where the extension is and repeat the tests (at same time of day)

Compare the two and if the tests are within 10% of each other, don't worry about which socket to use - there is enough varience in day to day broadband speeds that your speed could vary by upto 20% easily!

PS - don't forget to use the ADSL line filters on each phone point

[mattk35]

Good thinking batman. I'll give it a go.

[AntonyRBrown]

Main reason you are being told to go from the master socket is because company's don't want to get involved dealing with 3rd party alterations after the main socket, whether wired correct or not, Each phone line has a REN value of 4 (i believe long time since i messed with telecoms) most analogue phones have a ren of 1 once you go past 4. phones stop ringing, you could go out and buy 10 master sockets and wire them all from the rear (Masters come in 2 parts the rear is connects via a screw terminal connection, the front has 6 white blocks with v shaped metal inserts (yo u need a croning tool to connect them) can be done with a utility knife but i wouldn't recommend that.


how it should be done (and your main line in the house is where you start) you would use Orange and white to A and Orange to B (dependant on how there connected to the Exchange ) that's your main socket live. Now remove the front and we are only interested in terminal 1 3 and 5 1 and 5is the data lines and 3 is to power the ringer i normally use

1 - Blue
2 - Leave
3 - Orange and White
4 - Leave
5 - Blue and White

do this from Front of master to the first slave and if you wish to add another Slave then go from that slave to next, Try stay away from Extension jacks you plug in it will become a nightmare with the ADSL Filters you have to use.

Hope this info Helps

Antony

[AntonyRBrown]

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1 3 and 5 1 and 5is the data lines and 3 is to power the ringer i normally use

1 - Blue
2 - Leave
3 - Orange and White
4 - Leave
5 - Blue and White

do this from Front of master to the first slave and if you wish to add another Slave then go from that slave to next, Try stay away from Extension jacks you plug in it will become a nightmare with the ADSL Filters you have to use.

Hope this info Helps

Antony

it's 2 3 and 5

just needed some sleep, i Left my laptop open at this reply was reading and was like what idiot wrote that!!!!! Then the penny Dropped

http://www.wppltd.demon.co.uk/WPP/Wirin ... phone.html That site has everything you need to know about wiring.. Especially some Reaons why you shouldnt switch the A and B poles

Antony