Tilling on plasterboard

kintangoman · Post by **kintangoman** » Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:24 pm

lamntile (Paul), I am so grateful for your response to my plight. I have been scratching my head all week-end regarding how to tackle the cloakroom tiling? Have traced upstairs bathroom leak and repaired, ensuring that no more leaks will come downstairs. Have also tiled upstairs wall in bathroom but had a bit of bother with the floor. Why I hear you ask?

Well, the bath floor had lino, so I bought 12mm ply and got to work. when I took lino off, there was so much glue underneath. Infact, it was hard work getting lino off due to the amount of glue. Then I realised there were no floorboard, just some kind of flooring (Caberdeck, I think it reads). So I abandoned 12mm ply and proceeded to lay tiles on caberdeck. could only manage to remove about a third of glue.

My worries:
1) Is it ok to tile on lino? If its ok, then I should not have taken off lino. But I needed to know what was underneath the lino?
2) Should I have taken off all the glue?
3) Was I right to tile on the caberdeck? or should I have placed 12mm ply above caberdeck?

I have a feeling in 6months or less, I will be replacing the upstairs bath floor tiles. I hope and pray I am wrong.

C'mon Paul, save me from my missery?

Guess what scruff, I am going to write to admin and actually find out if UHM actually is the Boss (main Man?) My gut feeling tells me UR pulling my leg.

Kintangoman (Tony)

lamntile · Post by **lamntile** » Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:42 pm

Tony, you shouldnt tile on to lino, you should have put the plywood down then it wouldnt have mattered about the lino glue, the problem you now have is 2 fold 1 when the tile adhesive is onto the lino adhesive you wont have decent adhesion and secondly where the tile adhesiveis in contact with the chipboard floor if you come to remove the tiles in the future your likley to bring part of the chipboard up. Also chipboard floors are springy the chipboard would have stabilised the floor aswell.

Btw UHM (Chez) really is the boss of the site no leg pulling mate.

handyman · Post by **handyman** » Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:45 pm

just thinking, you could tank the plasterboard.........never done it, but would save a lot of time, and then no water would knacker the plasterboard

kintangoman · Post by **kintangoman** » Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:11 pm

Believe me, I actually thought UHM was not the site owner but had been allowed to use the name? Now i know better. UHM i do applolgise for not taking your position serious. All the best mate and well done.

lamtile, i am with you relating to the glue on the floor. i had this voice telling me not to be lazy and to take off all the glue. then again, if i had just placed the ply on the glue and screwed every 300mm (or is it 150mm?), then all this worry would have been avoided.

experience is the best teacher. now i know when it comes to tiling the cloakroom floor (its concrete with same glued lino), i will take off lino and remove all glue, if possible. i might have to use a floor levelling compound as lino will come off with some of the floor (just as Paul says if in future i take off bathroom tiles, some of them will come off with caberdeck floor.

handyman says i should just tank plasterboard, but i am not just tiling walls. i also have to tile floor and fit shower tray. besides, i know nothing about how to tank the plasterboard? missus just informed me that now i have finished upstairs, she expects me to start downstairs cloakroom 2moro. the pressure is on. she doesn't know about the glue and i think i will not tell her. she did ask why i did not use the ply that i had bought?

well, you live and learn.

Many thanks guys.

Tony

Razor · Post by **Razor** » Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:24 pm

Well it sounds as if you're going the right way about things

Don't forget to post some pictures of the completed work in the showcase section we love to see finished projects

kintangoman · Post by **kintangoman** » Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:44 pm

ok razor, i'll post some pictures. just hope people wont laugh!!!

missus is very demandig and keeps looking over my head to see what is being done. it makes me panic and in effect i make mistakes. i want to take my time and do things properly, but for her, she wants instant results ('what did you do 2day? that finished yet'???) it makes me nervy!

DIY_Johnny · Post by **DIY_Johnny** » Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:04 am

Best of luck.

I think your much better taking your time and doing it right as you will regret it afterwards. I rushed through some of the tiling and keep noticing a badly cut tile.

(I know what i'd say if my girl was being demanding, you must have more patience that me

)

Post by **ultimatehandyman** » Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:13 pm

kintangoman wrote:Hello everyone, I will be grateful for tiling advice.
I need to tile a cloakroom and fit a shower. The walls are made of plasterboard. Is it ok to tile on these boards, or do I need marine ply or aqua board?

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Kintangoman

Sorry about the confusion here.

I was in a mad rush when I posted the reply to this as I was setting off for London (hence the lack of posting over the weekend). When I read the post I read the plasterboard and cloakroom bit, but did not see the shower bit

or else I would of suggested tile backer board!

kintangoman · Post by **kintangoman** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:44 am

yes NewbieJohn, i'll definately take my time doing tiling downstairs. As for my girl, sacrificies have 2b made. My kids come 1st, so I'm prepared to turn a blind eye to her unreasonable behaviour.

Ultimatehandyman, no need 2b embarassed. We all make mistakes when in a hurry. As my upstairs bathroom job will eventually prove. I have been to 5 shops/stores yesterday and saw a variety of pdts:
- Backer board
- Hardiebacker board 500 (as recomended by tictic)
- Homelux waterproof mat.

I have decided to go for the Homelux waterproof mat as this is job done at my home, it will also reduce labour cost and time.
I hope I dont regret decision. Will start job 2day.

thanks a thousand times guys. I'll post pictures once project is finished.

handyman · Post by **handyman** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:46 am

kintangoman wrote: I have decided to go for the Homelux waterproof mat

is that a tanking kit?

kintangoman · Post by **kintangoman** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:10 am

Hello handyman, i suppose it equates to a tanking kit. To tell you the truth, i know nothing about this tanking business.
just that when i visited my local plumbing store and asked if they had heard of hardiebacker board 500 (recomended by tictic), their response ' wonderful stuff. You wouldn't get any better. a bit expensive though' he said. i asked if they sold any but they said no. i was told what shops to buy from, one of them being toppstile.
topps tile started to sell me the hardiebacker board 500, then staff said it might be better if i use Homelux? which turned out to be only £4 cheaper than board. except i wont now have to take out plasterboard and replace with hardiebacker board 500. also, there will be no need for battons, timber frames etc to support hardiebacker board. so i opted for easy option (not always best, i know).

funnily enough though, one of the shops i visited earlier had tried to sell me backer board (as recomended by Ultimatehandyman), then also suggested i use the Homelux product. he proceeded to tell me that in 2 yrs time govt will introduce new law so that anyone tilling must use Homelux waterproof matting. how did he get that info? he might know people in high places (powerhouse penpushers).

kintangoman