Network cabling

[jonjon]

I am going to install a cabled network for the first time and am a little unsure on how to go about it.
So my plan is after having bought a roll of ftp screened 8 core cable, this was recommended because I am running it parallel to a mains shower cable I should have it screened.
I intend to use the 8 core (2x4 pairs) cable so that I can have two rj45 sockets terminating at the router side and the other two in a room I am being moved to (grand children) which will terminate near the 2 old computers I have. In my new room I am installing a new phone line so the final project will comprise of (hopefully) 1 face plate with 2 rj45 modules 1 phone module and 1 rj11 (fax/printer). I have no idea how to connect up the rj11 and was thinking that I would wire it the same way one would wire a phone socket, in fact I was hoping that I could bridge the rj11to the phone module.
Does this look feasable or is it full of problems.
Any pointers would be appreciated.
I did post a question on the phone part in another section so this is the follow on simple!!

[Bob225]

1 Cat 5e outlet/module will use a 4 pair / 8 core cable so to fit 2 oulets/modules your need 2 runs, to run a stp network you will need stp modules and stp cables this is over the top for a domestic install

Just run the stp cable as standard cat5e cable, dont worry about connecting the shield interferance wont be a problem

As for the rj11 for the fax just use a secondary bt socket and use the lead that come with the fax to connect it to the phone line whats normally a rj11 on the fax machine to a bt plug this will cause you less problems than messing with an rj11 socket

[DIY_Johnny]

I used Cat 6, same work installing it and not much dearer and backward compatible

[Bob225]

most of my cabling at home i have installed is cat 6 at the time of install the cost of the cat 6 modules/outlets and patches was 50-75% more expensive than 5e so I plumped for 5e hardware and cat 6 cabling so it could be upgraded if needs be at a later date.

cat5e is fine for a basic domestic install as it will do gigabit speeds no problem, with the modern motherboards thay now have 2-4 lan ports that support dual gigabit lans (1 for recieve and 1 for send) giving you 2 gigabit of bandwidth

unless your into you pc's/networking the likes of fibre backbones are a bit ott

I will post up some pics later today of my home install

[jonjon]

Thanks to everone for their help, its much appreciated.
In reply I was originally was going to get cat6 as it is the latest standard but was put off by the advice I got that it was really quite delicate when going round corners (and my run has plenty) as it was prone to damage and that there was a certain bend radius that should be used. As finance is tight rather than risk it I went for the cat5e ftp, this I was told was plenty for my needs, being mainly photo and some video. I did want to end up with as neat and tidy finish, this is why I was trying to fit a faceplate incorporating rj45 telephone and rj11 but looks like I will have to settle for 2 faceplaqtes one with a adsl (rj11 I think?) and phone and another with the rj45.
Am looking forward to the pics from flash 22.
If anyone has any thoughts then please post them I will reply as best I can, unfortunately my Acer laptop is prone to dying on me at the moment.
Cheers

[Bob225]

Well if you want to go with it all in one face plate you can go modular

Say a 2 gang back box and faceplate 2 cat5e modules one blank and a bt secondary

The local trade networking place i use is called bownetcms thay do mail order

The alphasnap cat 5e modules are very good as are the cat6 ones

http://www.bownetcms.co.uk/ for all your networking needs.

ps. I posted some info and pics of my home network in the other section

[liqroof]

I was running a netcafe 4 years back and I have a well designed network at my netcafe. There are many topologies used the networking, Now its upto you which topology you want to use for your network configuration. Network topology is the physical interconnections of the elements (links, nodes, etc.) of a computer network.A local area network (LAN) is one example of a network that exhibits both a physical topology and a logical topology. Any given node in the LAN has one or more links to one or more other nodes in the network and the mapping of these links and nodes in a graph results in a geometrical shape that may be used to describe the physical topology of the network. Likewise, the mapping of the data flows between the nodes in the network determines the logical topology of the network. The physical and logical topologies may or may not be identical in any particular network.Any particular network topology is determined only by the graphical mapping of the configuration of physical and/or logical connections between nodes. The study of network topology uses graph theory. Distances between nodes, physical interconnections, transmission rates, and/or signal types may differ in two networks and yet their topologies may be identical.
The study of network topology recognizes seven basic topologies:

Bus topology
Star topology
Ring topology
Tree topology
There are also three basic categories of network topologies:

physical topologies
signal topologies
logical topologies

I prefer using the start toplogy since its more useful for the networking.

[jonjon]

Thanks liqroof,
I have to say I have never heard of any part of your explanation before (being a proper novice), but it is interesting and I will have to go away and take time to digest your comments. I makes sense to begin with googling the start topology subject.
cheers.

[quote="liqroof"]I was running a netcafe 4 years back and I have a well designed network at my netcafe. There are many topologies used the networking, Now its upto you which topology you want to use for your network configuration. Network topology is the physical interconnections of the elements (links, nodes, etc.) of a computer network.A local area network (LAN) is one example of a network that exhibits both a physical topology and a logical topology.

[jonjon]

Sorry Flash22 that it has taken me so long to reply (pics) but am still learning how to navigate site.
Looked at your photos and it looks like a very impressive set-up, (almost intimidating/inspiring?).
Well we all have to start somewhere and in time I might even get my humble set-up to work.
Cheers

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Well if you want to go with it all in one face plate you can go modularThe alphasnap cat 5e modules are very good as are the cat6 ones

http://www.bownetcms.co.uk/ for all your networking needs.