Geeze whats the big problem with bagged rapid set. Ever heard of mixing enough that you can use in the time it takes to tile? Try taking the time to set out the job properly, then you can do cuts before you start tiling. It only takes a bit of maths.
Good job you aren't plasterers because you would be whacking tubs of filler on a wall because you don't know how to mix a quarter bag of plaster lol.
You could understand it from a DIY person but not from anyone who actually charges to tile.
Floor tiles not staying put
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pmsl ere..Cantseeitfrommyhouse wrote:Not quite true. Mapei do a flexible ready mixed tile adhesive (sold in Screwfix) in 7.5kg tubs. Loads easier to use than overpriced useless crap like PCI Timberflex.tictic wrote:hi
then to fix tiles you will need a cement based flexible adhesive and flexible grout all comes in "bags", not an all in one tub s***
Personally I find most of the cementious / polymer mix it up jobs are a pain in the backside, as if you mix it all up together it'll set on you, if you don't getting the ratios right is practically impossible.
7.5kg tub..ok..give me the price off this plus the coverage over an uneven wooden floor..??..still pmsl ere... :lol..
bagged addy you say is a pain in the arse..again pmsl ere at that statement,sounds like you havent done much wall and floor tiling to me.
as for getting the ratios right..well thats why guys like me can do this job because we know how to do the job.
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found it....
mapei ultramastic 3....pmsl ,still its up there with unibond lol ....
you might want to check a few things with this addy...like the house will probaly need to be empty for about a....fortnight at least before walking on it...
now i use mapei a lot and know their reps..and there is no way in hell they would even mention this carp because they would just get laughed at...
mapei ultramastic 3....pmsl ,still its up there with unibond lol ....
you might want to check a few things with this addy...like the house will probaly need to be empty for about a....fortnight at least before walking on it...
now i use mapei a lot and know their reps..and there is no way in hell they would even mention this carp because they would just get laughed at...
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Was that not abundantly clear?royaloakcarpentry wrote:Geeze whats the big problem with bagged rapid set. Ever heard of mixing enough that you can use in the time it takes to tile?
Who said I didnt do that?royaloakcarpentry wrote: Try taking the time to set out the job properly, then you can do cuts before you start tiling.
royaloakcarpentry wrote: Good job you aren't plasterers because you would be whacking tubs of filler on a wall because you don't know how to mix a quarter bag of plaster lol.
Erm, wrong again.
I'll think you'll find the OP is a "DIY person" as you so disparagingly put it. Better to be DIY person with a capacity to learn than a no-it-all.royaloakcarpentry wrote: You could understand it from a DIY person but not from anyone who actually charges to tile.
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You will be pleased to know I now have the right stuff to stick them down with. Bad news is its going to have to wait. I'm getting better before I do anymore. Go me.
Anyway, I was wondering if any of you chaps would have some advise on something else for me, a little bit tiles related. If it would be better to post this in a new thread and better location, please just say so.
Basically I have a micro mosasic that has taken me years to complete. It was going to be a centre piece on a coffee table, but the coffee table is now no more. So I decided to use it as a wall piece instead. I mounted it on to a bit of MDF and have tiles a border round it. The MDF is 1.5cm (I think) thick, the whole thing is about 60cm x 240 cm. And its rather heavy now.
My house walls are pretty sturdy, proper walls. But I need to find a safe way to get this thing on the wall, knowing its going to stay there and not fall off. I am finding it a little tricky with it being MDF on the mount. Like I said this isn't particularly tiling, its just related with it having tiles on it.
I will try to attach a photo of it, not that it really helps. Just gives idea of what I'm talking about.
Anyway, I was wondering if any of you chaps would have some advise on something else for me, a little bit tiles related. If it would be better to post this in a new thread and better location, please just say so.
Basically I have a micro mosasic that has taken me years to complete. It was going to be a centre piece on a coffee table, but the coffee table is now no more. So I decided to use it as a wall piece instead. I mounted it on to a bit of MDF and have tiles a border round it. The MDF is 1.5cm (I think) thick, the whole thing is about 60cm x 240 cm. And its rather heavy now.
My house walls are pretty sturdy, proper walls. But I need to find a safe way to get this thing on the wall, knowing its going to stay there and not fall off. I am finding it a little tricky with it being MDF on the mount. Like I said this isn't particularly tiling, its just related with it having tiles on it.
I will try to attach a photo of it, not that it really helps. Just gives idea of what I'm talking about.
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Personally, I don't use rapid set for the simple reason that I have little requirement to use it.
When I did my tiling, my precut ones where cut slightly off and the errors started mounting up. I couldn't see how you could precut tiles for a wall when corners weren't plum or straight. Also measuring around electrical boxes is hard when they are half way up the wall and a few millimeters can make a colored grout line look poor
also with precutting all before using the adhesive. I found I cut some not enough ()e.g. swuare for electr socket) and there was a bit of filing back, nibbling etc. You don't want to be doing this whern you have a tub of rapidset mixed
I take your point though about mixing less quantities but don't you have to clean out the bucket and your tools before each mix?
I guess in a nutshell, for me it was that there a several reason not use use it and one one reason to use rapidset. But I was in no rush so that reason is not relevant for me
Make sense
(don't get me started on easyfill45)
Oh yeah and just to add, I am dumping my thoughts as a DIYer first time tiling so might be relevant for other first timers :
When I did my tiling, my precut ones where cut slightly off and the errors started mounting up. I couldn't see how you could precut tiles for a wall when corners weren't plum or straight. Also measuring around electrical boxes is hard when they are half way up the wall and a few millimeters can make a colored grout line look poor
also with precutting all before using the adhesive. I found I cut some not enough ()e.g. swuare for electr socket) and there was a bit of filing back, nibbling etc. You don't want to be doing this whern you have a tub of rapidset mixed
I take your point though about mixing less quantities but don't you have to clean out the bucket and your tools before each mix?
I guess in a nutshell, for me it was that there a several reason not use use it and one one reason to use rapidset. But I was in no rush so that reason is not relevant for me
Make sense
(don't get me started on easyfill45)
Oh yeah and just to add, I am dumping my thoughts as a DIYer first time tiling so might be relevant for other first timers :
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DIy'er first time or 5th time tiling, nothing wrong in that DIYjohnny.
That was the whole point of me saying I could understand it from a DIYer.
From a pro who is charging for work, it is different story.
Post was also about tiling a floor. For a pro it should be second nature to mark out squarely and accurately enough to precut tiles for a floor before actually laying them. Not all the tiles but enough to be able to mix up rapid set and use it before it goes off. I never mix up a whole bag at once. I use all that is in the bucket and so there isn't a need to clean it before mixing next batch.
For tiling walls, it isn't an issue.
That was the whole point of me saying I could understand it from a DIYer.
From a pro who is charging for work, it is different story.
Post was also about tiling a floor. For a pro it should be second nature to mark out squarely and accurately enough to precut tiles for a floor before actually laying them. Not all the tiles but enough to be able to mix up rapid set and use it before it goes off. I never mix up a whole bag at once. I use all that is in the bucket and so there isn't a need to clean it before mixing next batch.
For tiling walls, it isn't an issue.