fitting worktops

[guitardedleon]

as a continuation from my previous thread..i need advice to install the worktops

The units are in as close to sqaure as possible.

And the one length of top cut and in position with an even overhang.

Problem i have now though is...

If i put the second length on. It either has a huge gap along the wall
Which gets VERY wide

Or flat against wall make it seperare from the adjoining worktop.

So im confused as to how to make it sit tight and maintain an even overhang.

Im not at the property until monday so cant supply pics.

And thanks to bank not processing my money over the weekend
My inernet cut off untill monday so using my mobile.

[big-all]

it means you have a wall or units or both changing direction mid run
measure the wall to cabinet front if they are parallel then the run changes direction slightly

[guitardedleon]

it means you have a wall or units or both changing direction mid run
measure the wall to cabinet front if they are parallel then the run changes direction slightly

Hi BA

as i stated in the previous thread the wall is protruding toward the center and runs off both to the left & right corner.

i don't quite understand how they change direction?

as they are all flush with each other and level etc..

the wall isn't great though nor is the corner..

Id have to point you to the previous thread to see pics of what was there etc.

if the units are changing direction - how do I correct this so the worktops fit nicely?

[guitardedleon]

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when placed butted correctly to the adjoining top - the worktop has a very large gap behind.

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and when put against the wall - the joint between tops separates.

* also I have a 925x925 corner cabinet underneath *

[ayjay]

Or flat against wall make it seperare from the adjoining worktop.

So im confused as to how to make it sit tight and maintain an even overhang.

Is the overhang even when the worktop is flat against the wall?

If it is, you need to scribe the joint where the worktops meet.

[guitardedleon]

Or flat against wall make it seperare from the adjoining worktop.

So im confused as to how to make it sit tight and maintain an even overhang.

Is the overhang even when the worktop is flat against the wall?

If it is, you need to scribe the joint where the worktops meet.

Id have to check when I go there again Ayjay.
but if it is - I know how to go about it now.

if not though...
and the overhang is not even when against the wall..
is it the opposite?

and butt it up and then scribe the worktop to the wall?

thing is the gap is a good 20mm

[speed]

are you doing a masons mitre joint or using a joint strip?

with your pics you drew you need to cut the joint out of square to follow the units, pretty simple with a joining strip, can get interesting with a masons mitre.

if it is a masons you need to cut the female on the top piece and alter the angle of the male to fit

if the gap is megggga you maybe better pulling the units out and building out the wall square

[guitardedleon]

are you doing a masons mitre joint or using a joint strip?

with your pics you drew you need to cut the joint out of square to follow the units, pretty simple with a joining strip, can get interesting with a masons mitre.

if it is a masons you need to cut the female on the top piece and alter the angle of the male to fit

if the gap is megggga you maybe better pulling the units out and building out the wall square

Hi Speed,

joining strip mate, nowhere near confident enough to use a masons mitre join yet!

with this in mind - how would you go about fitting?


the gap from what I can remember was pretty large.

there is upstands going on too so we have maybe 15mm of play?

but the gap when I originally jammed my level into the corner ran from 0-22mm

but when placed center of wall read roughly 3-6mm either end...

as the run is under a window - how would I if necessary, build the wall out?

[speed]

you need to make sure your overhangs are the same, if you fix the top piece in place with a 30mm overhang (if a 600 top) then set the other w/top on the units with the same 30mm overhang it should be touching the wallall the way down assuming the units are touching the wall also.

with the overhangs correct measure the gap thats in the joint, for example they are touching at the back but there is a 20mm gap at the front this means you need to take 20mm to nothing from the back to front so the joint is the same allway down then you can screw on the joint strip and slide it up onto the other top

[big-all]

wallsquare.jpg

when placed butted correctly to the adjoining top - the worktop has a very large gap behind.

wall1.jpg

and when put against the wall - the joint between tops separates.

* also I have a 925x925 corner cabinet underneath *

sorry had assumed a strait run
same applies as in not exactly 90%

[guitardedleon]

you need to make sure your overhangs are the same, if you fix the top piece in place with a 30mm overhang (if a 600 top) then set the other w/top on the units with the same 30mm overhang it should be touching the wallall the way down assuming the units are touching the wall also.

with the overhangs correct measure the gap thats in the joint, for example they are touching at the back but there is a 20mm gap at the front this means you need to take 20mm to nothing from the back to front so the joint is the same allway down then you can screw on the joint strip and slide it up onto the other top

Think I understand that.

so essentially, ignore the gap behind?

just endure overhangs are equal.. and scribe the join.

the overhang on the one piece so far is around 15mm at most - will this make it difficult?

[speed]

you need to make sure your overhangs are the same, if you fix the top piece in place with a 30mm overhang (if a 600 top) then set the other w/top on the units with the same 30mm overhang it should be touching the wallall the way down assuming the units are touching the wall also.

with the overhangs correct measure the gap thats in the joint, for example they are touching at the back but there is a 20mm gap at the front this means you need to take 20mm to nothing from the back to front so the joint is the same allway down then you can screw on the joint strip and slide it up onto the other top

Think I understand that.

so essentially, ignore the gap behind?

just endure overhangs are equal.. and scribe the join.

the overhang on the one piece so far is around 15mm at most - will this make it difficult?

yeah basically, aslong as the overhangs are the same , when i said 30mm i mean from the carcass, 600mm top - 570mm carcass = 30mm overhang

[guitardedleon]

you need to make sure your overhangs are the same, if you fix the top piece in place with a 30mm overhang (if a 600 top) then set the other w/top on the units with the same 30mm overhang it should be touching the wallall the way down assuming the units are touching the wall also.

with the overhangs correct measure the gap thats in the joint, for example they are touching at the back but there is a 20mm gap at the front this means you need to take 20mm to nothing from the back to front so the joint is the same allway down then you can screw on the joint strip and slide it up onto the other top

Think I understand that.

so essentially, ignore the gap behind?

just endure overhangs are equal.. and scribe the join.

the overhang on the one piece so far is around 15mm at most - will this make it difficult?

yeah basically, aslong as the overhangs are the same , when i said 30mm i mean from the carcass, 600mm top - 570mm carcass = 30mm overhang

the cabinets arent right tight to the wall - maybe 6mm away from wall to accommodate uneven walls.

hence the overhang being less than 30mm - is this correct or do i need to scribe the service voids?

[Pooneil]

Can you not take a bit off the service voids on the units towards the corner and move the whole run back so that the unit in the bottom of the first picture is back against the wall, and then scribe the worktop to give your 30mm overhang?

If you're only 22mm out and have 15mm for the upstand that's only 7mm to lose. That doesn't sound too bad, or have I mis-understood?

[guitardedleon]

Hi PN

do you mean scribe the voids out to bring the run closer?

like:

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trim back the voids circled?

or am I getting it wrong?