tiling beginner

[wine~o]

I'm not sure if i agree with you completely on the mybuilder thing -

Whether you agree or not all of those sites check atrade/ my builder.con/ ratted trades Are only there to make money from either the tradesman or the punter...or preferably both..

They do NOT carry out the checks they claim to, and don't give genuine "Critical" feedback the time of day...

There is nothing like a personal recommendation....or ask the boys (And girls) on here for a decent trade in your area...

[royaloakcarpentry]

The job is doable. Just saying not to get fooled into believing it will be a piece of piddle. setting out is already confusing you.

Just take the time on the setting out, even if you have to mark each tile on the wall for a complete course.

You won't need a dear cutter for those tiles. You will probably be able to score them and then snap along the line with the tile on a bit of batten. If you have little cut outs to do then they can be done with a small angle grinder. ANGLE GRINDER CAN THEN BE USED ON OTHER jobs. (excuse caps)

[aeromech3]

Burnz0, you see it is now more difficult with the 2460 length, I make your 150mmx14tiles=2100mm leaving 360mm to cover; so say 8 either side of $ + two very difficult to cut 30mm strips but I was just suggesting a method, not doing the maths for you.
I went from cheap and perhaps an unlucky inexperience to a "Big Clinker" and amazing difference; plus I went from cheap 250x200x6mm tiles to more expensive which I could not afford to trash with bad cuts; this made the better tool worthwhile; your side walls are smaller than you stated in your 1st entry and no complex window to go around, a £50 cutter will do this 6mm thick job and floor tiles but not so comfortably.
Perhaps someone can recommend a reasonable cutter/method as ROC did.

[royaloakcarpentry]

Topps, the diy sheds, will all do tile cutters under £20. They probably all do wet cutters for under £60.

At the worst rate £100 for manual and electric cutter. Electric cutter will do the floor tiles too.

Or get manual cutter and angle grinder with a diamond blade for tiles.

[m3 fitter]

Burnz0.. you can hire a Rubi TS or TX or Star scribe cutter from most good independant tile shops, relatively cheaply.. on ebay a second hand TS60 Rubi scribe can be as low as £80.00, or if porcelain use TX700.. its the only brand i recommend, but i'm old school, and i'm sure this will start a debate ??

[darrenba]

its the only brand i recommend, but i'm old school, and i'm sure this will start a debate ??

Yeah but everyone knows that Sigma are better cutters than Rubi these days

[royaloakcarpentry]

Start a debate............we use a commercial tiler on occassion. he comes in at about 2:30pm because he is a foreman on site.

Had a porcy floor job and his Rubi TS wouldn't touch them. Had to take my Sigma in for him next day pmsl.

Rubi great cutters.....Sigma great cutters

My Karl Dahm washboy............excellent. lol i still have to rub the joints up by hand though.

[m3 fitter]

haaaha Karl dahm.. yeah blue ones hahaa.. sturdy metal strainer
Well he's an amateur ROK.. a TS on Porc's.. Noooooooo... a TX as full breaker system.. shame on him for letting the Rubi team down

[m3 fitter]

ROK... wrong spongefloat.... Genesis griddled sponge pulls and cleans

[royaloakcarpentry]

It has got the metal grid. i only need to wipe a couple of times with it. being fussy I prefer to rub my grout lines in though. If Genesis is available in Topps, it looks the same but doesn't have wheels and is dearer.

raimondi sponges I need.

To be fair the tiler did say his Rubi has never failed. It did score them but wouldn't snap them along the line. Even bashing them on the handle didn't work.

I did sneakily try my Sigma first before he turned up lol.

[m3 fitter]

A Ts Scribe has an end breaker, no good for porcelain grade 5 etc.. he should know that... Genesis sponges Rok, genesis do come with wheels FYI

[Burnz0]

[quote="royaloakcarpentry"]The job is doable. Just saying not to get fooled into believing it will be a piece of piddle. setting out is already confusing you.

i think you misunderstood what i meant. The setting out is not confusing me particularly, simply this 50mm that was mentioned by you and aeromech. For the most part the setting out is surely just maths or a case of marking the wall out and having an eye for what will look good/rubbish.

aeromech - im sure you probably don;t really care anyway but my calculations for the tiles is slightly different to what you have.
Set the first tile dead centre at 143cm which will gives 115.5 gap to each corner. 7 tiles=105 leaving 10cm tiles at each corner which i guess will be easy enough to cut?

as for the cutter, i'll look into hiring one but my of the tools ive ever hired from the local shop always come in at 30ish per day and i can see this taking me more than one weekend as i wont want to rush it. At those prices i may be better buying one so ill keep an eye out on ebay.

[m3 fitter]

To Simplify setting out:
Mark the Centre of the walls / either middle of the tile from the centre or side of the tile, rule of thum, at least 1/3 tile as a cut
If window wall, the window takes priority and centre the window, checking your wall cuts.. equal cuts either side of window
Height : check cut size to ceiling / floor then bath / shower tray / top and bottom of window and top of door.
If fixing a feauture on a wall, centre feature and then centre wall tiles
Rule of thumb... Make it look right to the eye
Sometimes small cuts are unavoidable to make features or priority objects look right.
Hopefully this simplifies setting out, the longer you take to set out, the easier and less complicated the job will seem

[royaloakcarpentry]

Sometimes small rips are part and parcel of the job. Either because of how items are situated or the size of the tile.

bathroom-completed-today-t49795.html

Take a look at that and you will see that there are some horrible looking small rips on the floor, just to the right as you would walk in. Couldn't be helped because the floor lines up with the wall facing the door. Although the floor and wall tiles do not meet due to the bath, it would look worse than the small cuts to be out of line. If I threw the floor tiles over to get rid of those small cuts it then left small cuts on one side. Throwing it over more sorted it but left small cuts to the other side lol. Couldn't win, so went with having them in line and the cuts behind the door.

Client insisted on Mosaic position, I certainly couldn't talk her into letting me be the judge of where they went. Take notice of the basin and crap tile cut above it. All because of her insistence.

Moral is the walls are let down by the basin and mosaic height........She loved it though. So your setting it is how you want it and not Ned from 10 doors down.

[m3 fitter]

hmmmmm. let me study this... lol hahah