van not working at its best

Hoovie · Post by **Hoovie** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:41 pm

Long time since I used Diesel, but sounds like knackered glowplugs to me. Can't always go by the coil light going off

handyman · Post by **handyman** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:44 pm

i'm going to have a fiddle in the morning

tim'll fix it · Post by **tim'll fix it** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:53 pm

panlid wrote:so you used to then?

yes and they are forever being mended, I now have a brand new car, that will be swapped when the waranty runs out and a van with 35K that I will swap at 50K

neither have gone wrong

touch wood

owen · Post by **owen** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:10 pm

a mate of mine has a new car every couple of years, they are always in and out of the dealers getting something fixed. ok he doesn't have to pay as it is under warranty, but he is already paying with the massive depreciation of buying new.

87k high miles, stop talking shite timm

panlid · Post by **panlid** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:00 pm

i have never bought new and never had a problem.
ok it may not have always been legal but they've been reliable

panlid · Post by **panlid** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:01 pm

my last van was over 100k and never went wrong, until they crushed it

Tryanything · Post by **Tryanything** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:20 pm

Could be a problem with the glow plug curcuit as Hoovie mentioned because i think the glow plugs still operate after start up until the engine reaches temperature

stevemastic · Post by **stevemastic** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:20 am

oh and check the wire on the stop valve on the pump is a good connection & the fast idle kicker/ cold idle on the pump functions.

handyman · Post by **handyman** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:37 am

Please keep in mind that i have never worked on a diesel

the cold idle on the pump doesnt kick in. I turned it over this morning and you can manually move the cam, and engine tone goes up a bit, but it didnt do this on its own from cold. Now, how do you fix it?

also looked at the air filter and all pipes leading to it, and the pipe that comes out the cover where the plugs are has oil in it. this oil is going along this pipe and into the air filter, only a small mount. In line with this pipe is a plastic molded bit that has a spring in it. Dont have a clue what this bit does.

The plugs/glow plugs have 2 wires and a pipe coming out them. Anything special to do if i was to remove them to inspect?

stevemastic · Post by **stevemastic** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:29 am

Idle kicker-is it operated by a thermostatic cable? you have to be very carfull with this ,get it wrong & its black smoke time

if it starts on all four then the plugs are ok for the time being, did you check all the fuel connections?

handyman · Post by **handyman** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:13 am

yes, theres a cable coming out it going into 'something'. Could it have not been cold enough this morning? It was about 6 degrees.

It runs smoothly with power, so I presume its firing fine on all plugs.

Havent checked fuel connections yet. I presume i just nip each connection and check for leaks?

Any thoughts on the oil in air lines?

stevemastic · Post by **stevemastic** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:33 pm

normal engine breathing as long as its just mist oil deposits & not 1/2 the sump

jason123 · Post by **jason123** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:28 pm

Handy, as Steve said, its called a crankcase breather, excess pressure in the crankcase is put straight into the intake filter with the intention of being burnt off, its not ecofriendly but you remove from the air filter and stick it in a bottle of oil etc

tim'll fix it · Post by **tim'll fix it** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:45 pm

handyman wrote:yes, theres a cable coming out it going into 'something'. Could it have not been cold enough this morning? It was about 6 degrees.

It runs smoothly with power, so I presume its firing fine on all plugs.

Havent checked fuel connections yet. I presume i just nip each connection and check for leaks?

Any thoughts on the oil in air lines?

i thought diesels only used the glowplugs to get them warm to start with

they dont fire, its all compression

owen · Post by **owen** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:03 am

correct