professional job, or not?
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professional job, or not?
Just had a bathroom tiled by some builders. I'm not happy with the result, but would like some feedback from people as it's the first time I've ever got anyone in to tile.
They also tiled behind the bath, which the plumber was bemused about, and had to remove all the tiles from that area to fit the bath. Originally the builders were going to fit everything, including the bath, etc. but due to the project dragging on a bit I had to enlist a separate plumber, who then made comments about the quality of the tiling, and other issues such as the way the bar shower had been fitted. Links removed, pics attached. Mod 2.
Honest opinions appreciated.
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imanc
They also tiled behind the bath, which the plumber was bemused about, and had to remove all the tiles from that area to fit the bath. Originally the builders were going to fit everything, including the bath, etc. but due to the project dragging on a bit I had to enlist a separate plumber, who then made comments about the quality of the tiling, and other issues such as the way the bar shower had been fitted. Links removed, pics attached. Mod 2.
Honest opinions appreciated.
Cheers,
imanc
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Re: professional job, or not?
Oh dear that is pretty awful - have you paid them? Did you pay them a lot?
You never tile behind a bath - so they obviously didn't have a clue about fitting a bathroom or tiling - how did you choose these people?
What were they tiling onto? What was the wall surface? How flat were the walls?
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Hey,
The whole house has been complete renovated and they've done a lot of the work, much of it to a high standard. But the tiling looks dreadful.
Yes, I've paid them everything so far bar about £200. They were doing other things during this last bout of work, so it's hard to specifically discern what I paid for the tiling, but I'd say it was in the region of about £700 for labour. It's a small bathroom - 1.5m x 2.5m.
They were tiling onto two plasterboard walls and two plastered solid walls. I'd already discussed having the walls taken back to bare brick and reboarded. In fact, I was poised to hire a labourer to take the walls back to bare brick and the plasterer was going to re-dab them. But the builders assured me the walls were in decent enough shape and any discrepancies could be worked out in the tile. To quote: "there's about 8 mill play with the tile adhesive anyway, so we can tile this without any problems"
They'd done the 1st fixes beforehand and the plumber was not happy about the work. He said he wouldn't wire up the radiator because the plastic pipe is sat on some very sharp tile edges and he didn't want to be responsible for any leaks. The bar shower, he says, will not fit and the tiles will need removing and some deeper chasing will need to be done to fit a proper mounting plate. And of course there was the issue with tliing behind the bath.
I think all of that could have been dealt though and I'd be more than happy if the tiling was sound. I'm gutted to have spent more than £600 on materials and then whatever on labour (~ £700) and it looks like it needs to be torn off and re-done.
The whole house has been complete renovated and they've done a lot of the work, much of it to a high standard. But the tiling looks dreadful.
Yes, I've paid them everything so far bar about £200. They were doing other things during this last bout of work, so it's hard to specifically discern what I paid for the tiling, but I'd say it was in the region of about £700 for labour. It's a small bathroom - 1.5m x 2.5m.
They were tiling onto two plasterboard walls and two plastered solid walls. I'd already discussed having the walls taken back to bare brick and reboarded. In fact, I was poised to hire a labourer to take the walls back to bare brick and the plasterer was going to re-dab them. But the builders assured me the walls were in decent enough shape and any discrepancies could be worked out in the tile. To quote: "there's about 8 mill play with the tile adhesive anyway, so we can tile this without any problems"
They'd done the 1st fixes beforehand and the plumber was not happy about the work. He said he wouldn't wire up the radiator because the plastic pipe is sat on some very sharp tile edges and he didn't want to be responsible for any leaks. The bar shower, he says, will not fit and the tiles will need removing and some deeper chasing will need to be done to fit a proper mounting plate. And of course there was the issue with tliing behind the bath.
I think all of that could have been dealt though and I'd be more than happy if the tiling was sound. I'm gutted to have spent more than £600 on materials and then whatever on labour (~ £700) and it looks like it needs to be torn off and re-done.
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Re: professional job, or not?
Given the pics and the above info, rip out and replace looks to be the only option...
FYI, normally the bath would be fitted before tiling...
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Re: professional job, or not?
In my view that is a rubbish job. I'm pretty fair about these things but I wouldn't pay a penny for that!
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Re: professional job, or not?
5hit................I would hazard a guess the eastern europeans have been in town, they normally chuck rubbish work in like that.
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The tiling is horrendous and so is the quality of the tiles. They look like they are different sizes and shapes,not b and poo ones by any chance?
Carpentry,I can explain it to you but I cannot understand it for you.
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Yep, BNQ white tiles - ~ £8 sq/m. They seem decent - I'm not sure htey are different sizes or if that's just somehow the light!?
The builders also seemed to screw up the tile placement and there's several places in internal corners where they've had to cut a slither of tile maybe 5-10mm thick. Then it seems to be placed unevenly. Just all looks a bit like a kebab shop, not the modern, stylish bathroom I was aiming for.
There's also huge lippage on the quartz tiles on the floor - right in the middle of the floor. The plumber was concerned about the potential to stub a toe on it.
Also, at the bathroom door two quartz tiles were only partially supported by ply with a couple of dabs of tile adhesive underneath where they weren't supported. One has cracked and the other has broken away. The tiling was completed yesterday.
The builders also seemed to screw up the tile placement and there's several places in internal corners where they've had to cut a slither of tile maybe 5-10mm thick. Then it seems to be placed unevenly. Just all looks a bit like a kebab shop, not the modern, stylish bathroom I was aiming for.
There's also huge lippage on the quartz tiles on the floor - right in the middle of the floor. The plumber was concerned about the potential to stub a toe on it.
Also, at the bathroom door two quartz tiles were only partially supported by ply with a couple of dabs of tile adhesive underneath where they weren't supported. One has cracked and the other has broken away. The tiling was completed yesterday.
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I wouldn't entertain buying cheap white tiles from b and poo,others may disagree tho?
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transitboy wrote: .I would get them back and get a proper tiler in
Or even a competent Handyman.
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Yes mate and someone with a bit of pride in their work.
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Sorry, missed this post earlier...imanc wrote: There's also huge lippage on the quartz tiles on the floor - right in the middle of the floor. The plumber was concerned about the potential to stub a toe on it.
Also, at the bathroom door two quartz tiles were only partially supported by ply with a couple of dabs of tile adhesive underneath where they weren't supported. One has cracked and the other has broken away. The tiling was completed yesterday.
Toe stubbable lippage?? (not that "stubbable" is a real word...) and "Dabs" of tile addy?????????
Sue them (Small claims court) for the making good.
And even B&Q cheapy tiles can be made to look good in the hands of a competent tiler, though he/she might end up chucking half the tiles away...
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That is one of the worst jobs I have ever seen! 8mm of play? that sounds like they have been dabbed. How did they even get so much lippage on plasterboarded walls? it all needs ripped out and done again. Even the b&q bumpy whites can be made to look decent on a wall, granted you quite often have to do without spacers altogether and get the joints as close as possible by eye but with white grout on white tiles your eye isn't drawn to the slightly uneven spacing of the tiles