worktop edgeing question

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tomorrow im fitting worktops. gloss white mirror chip worktops to be precise. form howdens. the edgeing that comes with the tops seems to be a pvc type of material. with normal type tops what i do is contact glue the edges on. then trim back with a file and a bit fine wet n dry paper to finish off. this stuff though i dont think that way will work.

ive been told about unika double sided tape to stick the edge on. or to use solvent free glue. both of which south shields howdens or sunderland howdens dont have.

also... to trim it up. what would any of you guys that have done this type of top use? if i have to ill go buy a lam trimmer tomorrow from machine mart or the like.

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ohh and btw... the bloke in howdens said some blokes stick worktop edges on with mitre bond lol rough or what

[steviejoiner74]

You can return the post form edge round on itself,Its a pig to do but it's achievable with a trend jig and lots of patience. I've done it once,about 10 years ago and on a laminate worktop it's hardly worth it tbh. I use the same method as you do for sticking and trimming laminate edges,contact adhesive.
You get spray contact adhesive now but I've never tried it.

[ayjay]

I've read good things (on here) about the d/s tape but I've never used it. I've also not used the pvc type edging, just the normal laminate (which I've always stuck with Evo 528 and trimmed with a block plane, then file and fine paper).

If you go for a trimmer, test it out on a spare bit of top first as I've known the bearings to mark tops, gloss is probably particularly susceptible...........and allow any glue to dry completely, otherwise it gums up the bearing on the cutter - and then the top will get marked.

[philprime]

I have used laminate trimmers a few times and had them mark the top by the time you have changed the bit and set your router up I would have used my block plane and a file

Never tried ds tape always used contact adhesive

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yea i didnt want to be breaking anything. lets see how it works out with a block plane.

@stevie... the worktop is a square edged top. no rounded edge to speak of. kinda like solid wood work tops. ive read on here that ya suposed to join those straight. and the slightly rounded tops with a 12mm mason mitre and the normal rounded over tops with a 23mm? mason mitre. however i have only 1 jig so its getting the 23mm type regardless. the exact same worktop is done in south shields howdens with a 23mm mason mitre and it looks absolutely fine.

the kitchens been supplied with white colorfill. bugger using that too. clear silicone all the way. better job too. the colorfill will be sent back.

[Job and Knock]

Late to the fray again! I've used both PVC and ABS edging on shop fitting jobs with laminate surfaces. I'd go with contact adhesive as d/s tape doesn't seem to adhere too well to MDF or chipbord cores. For edge trimming I'd work it almost to the laminete with a block plane then finish with a laminate trimmer - I have a horizontal laminate trimmer specifically for this task (a Holz-Her, but basically the grandad of the Festool MKF/OFK700 shown below - see from about 1:40, at 2:06 you see the cutting action itself):



I've tended to shy away from using files on ABS or PVC because they always seem to leave file marks for me - a quick buff-up with a very coarse cloth at the end seems to get rid of the remaining glue and cutter marks. In any case when you are doing 25 or more metres of edging filing becomes a royal PIA.

Took me a while to find a video which showed that (the whole reason you buy one of those beasties) - seems the Yankee DIYers think these machines are routers and the just don't have a clue!

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not too late actually haha... as the house is empty still i agreed with the home owner to pull off till saturday as the company i work for got a bit of an emergency job in a ship yard to do. epdm roof, renew some drain pipes and a couple of other jobs. we get a bit work off them and now they want us to do a pretty big roof too.

grrr that edge thing looks canny good like more expense haha

[Timllfixit]

I have seen it done with a file, but wouldn't like to attempt it myself without some practice!

[Job and Knock]

The other thing which occurred to me was that there was a German firm who make hand tools tpo go with their PVC edge banding. The name came back to me today - Rehau - and these are the hand tools they can supply for working edge banding. The Raukantex finisher works in a similar way to the "coarse cloth" I talked about - it's basically clean jute sacking and will tone down file marks. I might be wrong but I seem to recall that the trimmer (Raukantex) is about £70. but I may be mistaken and I can't find any references to the price on the net (although I still have a distributor number for the local stock holder if you are interested)