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The hanging CU looked a bit ropey in the photos.. I'll explain...Old CU remains until I am ready to fully kill all old electrics.
Fitting a new CU behind a flush panel.. Having a full re-wire also. Panel is just skimmed over & just the outline of the panel can be seen...large mirror will cover this...
Fitting a new CU behind a flush panel.. Having a full re-wire also. Panel is just skimmed over & just the outline of the panel can be seen...large mirror will cover this...
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On with the flooring installation! Resident flooring expert Wes has been ultra helpful with responding to all my PM’s!!
So thought I would summaries how I went about it….
Flooring picked by my good wife was 18mm oak hand scraped engineered wood flooring – 5mm real oak, length 300>1200mm. Tounge and groove. @ £35/m^2. As it is an older property we felt the hand scrapped feel was more suited.
Flooring was acclimatised in the room within its own packaging for 10days, @ 18degC, 45 to 60RH. So not to feel left out we headed to Portugal to do our own acclimatision …
First was to clear the room… swept and hovered, making sure the joints between the plywood sheets was clear to allow for subfloor expansion. I also removed the radiators – this kit (£10 on ebay!) made it very easy to empty the system without wetting any of the floor.
Next was to determine where to start the flooring…… The living room, front hall and rear hall are all being floored. The feature in the living room was the slate hearth and I wanted to run the flooring parallel to this.
Wes advised that I should check that if I started with a full width on the opposite wall that I didn’t end up with a sliver in front of the hearth…
I struck a line parallel to the hearth and one parallel to the opposite wall – it was found that these were within 4mm – so assuming the end boards were wide enough this should not be noticeable.
I had to narrow the board width by 40mm along the opposite wall, as the full board width did create a 20mm sliver at the hearth and also on the fire wall as can be seen here:
I also undercut the hearth to ensure the wood could expand under it without the need of a cover strip.
I bought a porta nailer 402 kit from ebay along with some 50mm T cleats. This should keep the flooring well attached to the 18mm plywood subfloor!
Before laying any of the floor the subfloor moisture content needs checking…not having any fancy meters I just my one for my wood burning stove….
Flooring needs to be sub 9%, which mine was.
We then rolled out the craft paper which has a tar layer inside - this acts as a moisture barrier.
We transfer our chalk lines onto the craft paper and proceeded to measure and mark the planks that needed narrowing. These were cut on the table saw.
After the wall board lengths were narrowed, we dry fitted these to work out the flooring for window reveal. These were cut and 30mm holes cut for the central heating pipes:
We then secure the back board with screws under where the skirting will sit as the prota nailer is unable to secure the first row planks due to foiling on the wall. The narrow planks were secret nailed through the tongue. Once the full length was secured we double checked that the row was running parallel to our datum. Crazy how long it takes to just get to this point but I am sure it will be worth the effort.
My wife then selected the plank order and racked them out.
I proceeded to nail these in. We did find as the board are random lengths between 300mm>1200mm, out of the 12 boxes our longest length is 900mm – which has meant it has been hard to avoid H & step pattern…… Just trying to do our best.
Got about 1/3 of the flooring down. The end of the day my back & thighs were a tad tender!
Will try and get the rest finished at the weekend….
So thought I would summaries how I went about it….
Flooring picked by my good wife was 18mm oak hand scraped engineered wood flooring – 5mm real oak, length 300>1200mm. Tounge and groove. @ £35/m^2. As it is an older property we felt the hand scrapped feel was more suited.
Flooring was acclimatised in the room within its own packaging for 10days, @ 18degC, 45 to 60RH. So not to feel left out we headed to Portugal to do our own acclimatision …
First was to clear the room… swept and hovered, making sure the joints between the plywood sheets was clear to allow for subfloor expansion. I also removed the radiators – this kit (£10 on ebay!) made it very easy to empty the system without wetting any of the floor.
Next was to determine where to start the flooring…… The living room, front hall and rear hall are all being floored. The feature in the living room was the slate hearth and I wanted to run the flooring parallel to this.
Wes advised that I should check that if I started with a full width on the opposite wall that I didn’t end up with a sliver in front of the hearth…
I struck a line parallel to the hearth and one parallel to the opposite wall – it was found that these were within 4mm – so assuming the end boards were wide enough this should not be noticeable.
I had to narrow the board width by 40mm along the opposite wall, as the full board width did create a 20mm sliver at the hearth and also on the fire wall as can be seen here:
I also undercut the hearth to ensure the wood could expand under it without the need of a cover strip.
I bought a porta nailer 402 kit from ebay along with some 50mm T cleats. This should keep the flooring well attached to the 18mm plywood subfloor!
Before laying any of the floor the subfloor moisture content needs checking…not having any fancy meters I just my one for my wood burning stove….
Flooring needs to be sub 9%, which mine was.
We then rolled out the craft paper which has a tar layer inside - this acts as a moisture barrier.
We transfer our chalk lines onto the craft paper and proceeded to measure and mark the planks that needed narrowing. These were cut on the table saw.
After the wall board lengths were narrowed, we dry fitted these to work out the flooring for window reveal. These were cut and 30mm holes cut for the central heating pipes:
We then secure the back board with screws under where the skirting will sit as the prota nailer is unable to secure the first row planks due to foiling on the wall. The narrow planks were secret nailed through the tongue. Once the full length was secured we double checked that the row was running parallel to our datum. Crazy how long it takes to just get to this point but I am sure it will be worth the effort.
My wife then selected the plank order and racked them out.
I proceeded to nail these in. We did find as the board are random lengths between 300mm>1200mm, out of the 12 boxes our longest length is 900mm – which has meant it has been hard to avoid H & step pattern…… Just trying to do our best.
Got about 1/3 of the flooring down. The end of the day my back & thighs were a tad tender!
Will try and get the rest finished at the weekend….
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Hi,
Great job so far and great write up, many thanks for sharing it's an inspiration to us all.
Kind regards, Col.
Great job so far and great write up, many thanks for sharing it's an inspiration to us all.
Kind regards, Col.
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Looks absolutely spot on Cal
Nice to see you've undercut the fireplace. It really does make the difference going that extra mile. Thinking about when you get to the fireplace,, do you have a plan on how you're going to install the pieces going under the main face? Two suggestions really : (You'll obviously be gluing there). You could come in from either side (Using two long boards). Being sure to be mindful of the last rows (before the fireplace row) headers.
Alternatively, you could drop the pieces in straight. This should be possible as you've balanced out the floor leaving a wider board at the fireplace. If it was a slither, you wouldn't have the angle to get it in.
With either method, it can sometimes be difficult to close the length up to the last row as the fire hearth will block you from using a pull bar. A good little trick with this is to wrap the board with strong tape (multiple strips). You'd attach tape to the bottom of the boards (the boards going under the hearth) and bring the tape round the cut side and over the top. You'd then fold the tape back on itself so it doesn't stick to the top of the board. These will also be your pull handles. I hope this all makes sense mate I'm not the best at explaining this stuff without a thousand words Once you've used the tape to pull the rows together, bridge the length join with tape so the boards don't open up. Then simply carefully cut the handle tape at the hearth.
Your radiator pipe hole is perfect!
Nice to see you've undercut the fireplace. It really does make the difference going that extra mile. Thinking about when you get to the fireplace,, do you have a plan on how you're going to install the pieces going under the main face? Two suggestions really : (You'll obviously be gluing there). You could come in from either side (Using two long boards). Being sure to be mindful of the last rows (before the fireplace row) headers.
Alternatively, you could drop the pieces in straight. This should be possible as you've balanced out the floor leaving a wider board at the fireplace. If it was a slither, you wouldn't have the angle to get it in.
With either method, it can sometimes be difficult to close the length up to the last row as the fire hearth will block you from using a pull bar. A good little trick with this is to wrap the board with strong tape (multiple strips). You'd attach tape to the bottom of the boards (the boards going under the hearth) and bring the tape round the cut side and over the top. You'd then fold the tape back on itself so it doesn't stick to the top of the board. These will also be your pull handles. I hope this all makes sense mate I'm not the best at explaining this stuff without a thousand words Once you've used the tape to pull the rows together, bridge the length join with tape so the boards don't open up. Then simply carefully cut the handle tape at the hearth.
Your radiator pipe hole is perfect!
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Thanks Wes! I probably sound like your apprentice asking questions every 5 minutes!!Wes wrote:Looks absolutely spot on Cal
Had not got that far..... but I think we will go with your option 1 - using two largest planks from either side, glued using Taylors MS PLUS to the plywood.Wes wrote:
Thinking about when you get to the fireplace,, do you have a plan on how you're going to install the pieces going under the main face?
I think I understand! However, knocked up a quick sketch - have I interpreted you correctly? However, it does make sense to help pull the tongue into the groove… …Wes wrote:
A good little trick with this is to wrap the board with strong tape (multiple strips).
Thanks again for the guidance!
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That's spot on Cal...
You'd perhaps have three strips or so on each board. You may not need them - you may be able to ease the 'narrow' board in with finger tip friction with your knuckles pressing against the hearth. Just do a dry run first and see how you go.
You'd perhaps have three strips or so on each board. You may not need them - you may be able to ease the 'narrow' board in with finger tip friction with your knuckles pressing against the hearth. Just do a dry run first and see how you go.
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Cheers Wes. Done some more tonight...should get up to the hearth / door ways on Saturday...
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We managed to get the flooring finished in the living room today. Worked up towards the hearth..
Narrowed the stripes at the hearth. I also undercut these at 45deg angle to give even more clearance..
Then made up some of Wes's handles!!
Cut the bitiuen paper back & applied the Taylor MS adhesive using a 6mm notches trowel...
Slid these in from either side and used the handles to pull joint tight then applied tape to secure while the adhesive was setting...
Continued on until I reached the walls / door ways. Undercut the doors using multi tool...
Overall very happy with how the hearth planks turned out...
My wife is delighted with the result - thanks again to Wes for his expert advise on this!!
Just to get the skirting fitting installed, radiators back on and the room should be near finished! :)
Narrowed the stripes at the hearth. I also undercut these at 45deg angle to give even more clearance..
Then made up some of Wes's handles!!
Cut the bitiuen paper back & applied the Taylor MS adhesive using a 6mm notches trowel...
Slid these in from either side and used the handles to pull joint tight then applied tape to secure while the adhesive was setting...
Continued on until I reached the walls / door ways. Undercut the doors using multi tool...
Overall very happy with how the hearth planks turned out...
My wife is delighted with the result - thanks again to Wes for his expert advise on this!!
Just to get the skirting fitting installed, radiators back on and the room should be near finished! :)
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Superb Cal Looks absolutely fantastic!!
Fireplace really worked out well. It's nice to see the results of my advice Well chuffed mate..
You and your wife have done excellent both with the floor and the entire project Thanks for keeping up with the thread updates and including so much detail..
Fireplace really worked out well. It's nice to see the results of my advice Well chuffed mate..
You and your wife have done excellent both with the floor and the entire project Thanks for keeping up with the thread updates and including so much detail..
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Really nice job,looks really proffesional indeed. You should be well chuffed with the result.
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Howdy All!
Thought I would try and bring this thread to more of a completion given the fact that the forum members helped me out with advice along the way ….
Front Hall – craft paper being laid onto plywood prior to engineering OAK being secret nailed to this.
Front Porch Window narrowed then re-glazed!
Porch doors stripped back to pine – just need to glaze! Sandstone surrounds stripped of 10 layers of paint – Peel Away 1 and 7 worked a treat!
Our Temporary Bedroom which will eventually be our dining room..
Gas living Flame Fire, marble surround, cast back and granite hearth – another gumtree bargain!
View from Front hall into Living Room. Skirting On. Radiators On.
Living Room Multi-Fuel stove ON! TOASTY!
We have furniture!! Nice to relax after a hard days work!
We have embarked on our most ambitious DIY project to date……our 90m+ sq extension……have completed the demolition of old extensions and currently digging out soil ready for foundations……..so will start a new thread about this new project...so stay tuned....
Thought I would try and bring this thread to more of a completion given the fact that the forum members helped me out with advice along the way ….
Front Hall – craft paper being laid onto plywood prior to engineering OAK being secret nailed to this.
Front Porch Window narrowed then re-glazed!
Porch doors stripped back to pine – just need to glaze! Sandstone surrounds stripped of 10 layers of paint – Peel Away 1 and 7 worked a treat!
Our Temporary Bedroom which will eventually be our dining room..
Gas living Flame Fire, marble surround, cast back and granite hearth – another gumtree bargain!
View from Front hall into Living Room. Skirting On. Radiators On.
Living Room Multi-Fuel stove ON! TOASTY!
We have furniture!! Nice to relax after a hard days work!
We have embarked on our most ambitious DIY project to date……our 90m+ sq extension……have completed the demolition of old extensions and currently digging out soil ready for foundations……..so will start a new thread about this new project...so stay tuned....
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Not jealous, not jealous at all.............
Actually I am, not just of the property but also your skill and perseverance. Nice work! Partner and I are house hunting at the moment, I really don't have the stomach for a renovation like this even though I would love the end result.
Actually I am, not just of the property but also your skill and perseverance. Nice work! Partner and I are house hunting at the moment, I really don't have the stomach for a renovation like this even though I would love the end result.
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Quite impressive!
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