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Good morning everyone.

I need to fit a new hob in a log cabin, which is matchboarded inside and will go up like a tinder box if I get it wrong.

Theres something called a Montpellier 300 INT which looks like what I'm thinking of but I can't see how I'm supposed to get power to it. All it says in the blurb is:

Power: 3500W - Zone 1 x 160mm (1400W-1800W with Boost) Zone 2 x 200mm (2100W-2500W with Boost)

Added to that all, the closest power supply is just a twin three pin plug wall socket although there is a spur for the electric water heater at the other end of the units.

The water heater MCB says “B16" on it and the MCB for the sockets says "B32" which I'm guessing refers to the amps they can carry, but I'm not working to assumptions on this.

So, the question is, what does that Montpellier unit need to power it? If I haven't got a decent power supply near to where I want to put it, what should I be looking for that will utilise the power supply I have got and which isnt rubbish to cook on?

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What’s the incoming supply to the cabin?
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Thanks for the quick reply.

Its three core armoured. Looks like 6mm but I can only see about 6inches of it and I can't properly read what's marked on it.... Will be able to check on Monday when I see the house it's coming off.

Assuming it's 6mm what's the score? I seriously doubt it's smaller than that.
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100amp
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jimllshiftit wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:56 pm100amp
That I doubt
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If I could get a photo to you I would.

Its says:
MAIN SWITCH
Hager
SBR290
100A
400V
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Just on the end result of what you want to achieve: I have a single worktop induction plate rated at 1600W; I bought it abroad some years back; it works off a 3 pin outlet; I absolute love it; I ditched my electric kettle and have just bought another compatible Tower saucepan, yes I am single but have a microwave, rice cooker and pizza oven; I never use my Indesit infrared hob now; I cannot ever remember having the induction on a high setting; I guess if you are frying steaks you might, mostly it is on 400 cycle the range is 200 to 2000 and a fast 2 mug size kettle of water I use 800; smallest pan it works with is 12cm dia; it does have a cooling fan which is a bit of noise but not as much as an extractor hood; I find the lower settings more useful but the 80*C is a bit low for simmer and the 100*C too high, hence the use of the 200 cycling, a 90*C would be good for me.
Don't put thin steel enamel plates on it or empty pans it might not be visible but will still put out the heat and you could have an Aga fire!
I could not find much detail on the one you ref. but on Amazon example the Aobosi and AMCHEF come with 3 pin but they are 2800W rated.
I bought a Gasland model, as a gift and nearly 2 years later, the friend told me it had never worked correctly, bleeping error after a minute, suspecting their pans I took it home and tried my pans but same, so there are some rouge units around.
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jimllshiftit wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:31 pm If I could get a photo to you I would.

Its says:
MAIN SWITCH
Hager
SBR290
100A
400V
That is a main switch which doesn’t offer any overload protection
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Oh right, and thanks for your input.

Theres a switch in the house that isolates this place but again I won't see that until tomorrow.

Will that give you the answer youre looking for or will I find it here?
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jimllshiftit wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:54 pm Oh right, and thanks for your input.

Theres a switch in the house that isolates this place but again I won't see that until tomorrow.

Will that give you the answer youre looking for or will I find it here?
What’s your role in this a it sounds like you are working for somebody
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There is one house and two log cabins here. They're all mine but I live in one of the log cabins and the main house, where the electric supply for the log cabins comes from, is let out. I could go in there if I wanted to, but it's the weekend and I have no desire to disturb the current occupants unnecessarily.

Promise you this isn't a commercial job. I just want to improve my cooking facilities in here.
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jimllshiftit wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:07 am There is one house and two log cabins here. They're all mine but I live in one of the log cabins and the main house, where the electric supply for the log cabins comes from, is let out. I could go in there if I wanted to, but it's the weekend and I have no desire to disturb the current occupants unnecessarily.

Promise you this isn't a commercial job. I just want to improve my cooking facilities in here.
As you main property is tenanted, then you should have an EICR in place and that may give you the answer
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Thanks and I really don't wish to rain on your parade but the property it not tenanted. Tenant is a very strong word in law. My occupants, although paying guests, are there on an excluded occupancy basis. They are not tenants, only a tiny proportion of the Housing Act (1988 and its amendments) applies in their instance and an EICR is not required. Neither is an EICR required for holiday rental property although I believe that is likely to change soon.

For that reason I do not have an EICR.

So where to next? All I can see on the switches from the house to the lodge is "MAIN SWITCH 100A"

Also I can see the cable better here and it says 600 / 1000v and 3 x 16. BS 5467 H 2011.
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Thanks also to Aeromech..... Aga seems to be fine these days :)
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