Fire door regulation query

[MichaelJA]

Hi

I live in Scotland, and recently asked a door fitter for a quote to supply and fit a new door to my flat i.e. the main flat door to get from the common close to gain entry to the flat.

The guy said because of the Grenfell tower fire, the Scottish gov has changed the law so that all new doors need to be heavy fire-proof doors.

First I've heard of this, just wondering if anyone is aware if this is fact or not?

Thanks
Michael

[dewaltdisney]

I don't know about Scotland but I believe it has always been the case in England under building regulations. I think that where an entrance door to a flat opens onto a common area it should be a fire door. It stops fire spreading both ways, in and out, for a half an hour resistance, Intumescent strips help seal against smoke and the doors should be self-closing. All common sense really, I doubt Grenfell had bugger all to do with it as that focus has been on cladding.

DWD

[Someone-Else]

MichaelJA, what your man said may actually be true, but is has been the norm in England for many years. (Like dewaltdisney said)

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[Chippo1]

My experiance with lifts in public access building where door open in to a common area are that doors need to be fire rated , or the common area as a whole protected from egress and ingress of fire from other areas , as should the stair case or cases and escape routes.

Your home / residence should have a door that prevents the spread of fire to and from it.

Grenfell one of the issues was that the fire doors in public areas and to the flats were very poorly fitted , basically you could limbo dance under them and many of the door closers didn’t work properly fully closing the doors. The only door systems to work and function as design were in fact the two hour rated lift doors , installed by Apex lifts . Even after the fire these remained intact.

I actually attended a RIBS conference that discussed early on the implications of Grenfell , and fire doors were a contributory factor to spread of fire and preventing flats from being safe refuges, which had previously been the intention until of course this fire raged up the outside of the building.

So I would do more research on what and how u need to do to proceed and comply in the area in which u live , maybe contacting your local authority for assistance , not sure what building control is called where u are .

[aeromech3]

My Son rents out a ground floor apartment in West London, he had to fit a fire door to his flat and into the kitchen though I think this was a Council rent stipulation and a pain in the butt to go in and out of holding hot foods etc so it gets wedged open. A right saga, despite giving the job to a Fire Safety Co and having the doors manufactured to size, they were not and the fitters went to B&Q to buy a frame. The door, and hardwares had to have the correct FD30 BS kite stamps etc

[Someone-Else]

But the OP said

I live in Scotland

The rules up are not the same.
But yes, a brand new fire door installation must be purchased as a set from a reputable dealer, not B & Q, you also have to have the correct screws, hinges (usually 3) and other door furniture.