FAULT WITH SWITCH AND SOCKET

teams · Post by **teams** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:45 pm

HI Guys

We have three issues:

a) the 13 amp spur switch is news but isn't working (red square),
b) the extractor fan is new, worked before the new 13 amp spur switch was installed,
c) the 2 gang socket worked, but has stopped working (green square).

Black squares are 2 gang sockets, all new, which all work.

Any help much appreciated.

Many thanks.

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Someone-Else · Post by **Someone-Else** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:15 pm

That's nice.

Since the "spur" is new I would have to guess it has been wired wrong, or connected wrong. Picture of connections would help. (Turn the mains off first.)

Neelix · Post by **Neelix** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:02 pm

Get the person who made the changes to fault find?

teams · Post by **teams** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:25 pm

Someone-Else wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:15 pm That's nice.

Since the "spur" is new I would have to guess it has been wired wrong, or connected wrong. Picture of connections would help. (Turn the mains off first.)

The first one is from below, the second one is from above.

Someone-Else · Post by **Someone-Else** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:35 pm

You can not be serious?

What is with the rubber bands?

I am not going to mention the amount of copper I can see.

Teams, I assume you do not see what is wrong?

Get the person who did it back.........................unless it was you, was it? (we all make mistakes)

wine~o · Post by **wine~o** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:52 pm

teams, Looks to me like that black wire (neutral) with the copper showing isn't actually connected. As S-e says that's an amateur job.

teams · Post by **teams** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:28 pm

Someone-Else wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:35 pm You can not be serious?

What is with the rubber bands?

I am not going to mention the amount of copper I can see.

Teams, I assume you do not see what is wrong?

Get the person who did it back.........................unless it was you, was it? (we all make mistakes)

Yes it was me, I'll have a go tomorrow. All but two of the wires are really rigid, the problem is also the new switch / socket, the bit which holds the screws tilts (a design feature).

teams · Post by **teams** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:01 pm

This is the old Spur Switch, picture taken before removing - the instructions for the new switch state that it's a case of wiring it the same.

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Someone-Else · Post by **Someone-Else** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:38 pm

teams wrote: ↑Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:01 pmthe instructions for the new switch state that it's a case of wiring it the same

Yes, they probably do, but you didn't.

We all learn from our mistakes.

You need to make the connections on your new FCU look like the connections on your old FCU. You picture clearly shows the black wire is not connected properly.

wine~o · Post by **wine~o** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 4:47 pm

Someone-Else wrote: ↑Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:38 pm

That's what I said.
You picture clearly shows the black wire is not connected properly.

teams · Post by **teams** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 5:41 pm

I think 'wiring it the same way is incorrect, simply because the switch is 'colour coded', I noticed that when I was doing it, but followed there 'do it the same way'.

Below is the diagram.

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Someone-Else · Post by **Someone-Else** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 5:43 pm

But you still have the copper wire exposed.

teams · Post by **teams** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:12 pm

Still no joy, used colour codes on diagram / switch. As below

These are the cables that need to be wired to the switch:

Cable 1 - Brown and Blue,
Cable 2 - Red, Black and Green / Yellow (I've just used green in the diagram)
Cable 3 - Red, Black and Green / Yellow (I've just used green in the diagram)

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Neelix · Post by **Neelix** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:32 pm

Is this a ring or a radial ?

teams · Post by **teams** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:47 pm

Neelix wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:32 pm Is this a ring or a radial ?

Radial, drawing in first post.