Solar panels housing association

Deleted-user-3 · Post by **Deleted-user-3** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 3:23 pm

oi and no one nick my idea n start floggin em on money saving expert right?

Someone-Else · Post by **Someone-Else** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:22 pm

cwplastering wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 3:19 pmwould that give me purely and only what is being put into the system by the pv panels?

Yes, it would work, but do bear in mind the following.

In order for it to work it must be plugged into the mains (How else would it be able to light up, tell what the mains voltage is)
It would be a good idea to mount it in a box, as the terminals to connect the mains to are exposed
The CT (The black clampy thing) would need its wires extending, to do this I would suggest you use This It has to be thick as the CT does not produce a lot of power and will be lost over a distance unless large flex is used (Volt drop)

You could even put it in This

I even found one cheaper than yours Click here

There is another one even cheaper, but it then says £11 p&p

Deleted-user-3 · Post by **Deleted-user-3** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:35 pm

good :) thanks for that
Now hows this for an improvement..
that meter looks like it can run off a battery, i have a clamp meter that can read current voltage hz etc without contact and is 9v battery powered..
even if not not matter..
but if i could find a way of generating a current when the wattage of the pv exceeds the wattage of the main house power meter... connect that to a 240v 10a relay and that to a battery....
one of those states it can give an alarm at a preset value... if both of them could..... wouldnt need much circuit board wizardry...
would that be stealing electricity?

Deleted-user-3 · Post by **Deleted-user-3** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:37 pm

obviously the battery is just plugged into a charger thats plugged into any house socket and the relay just controls the on switch so it only charges when the leccy is free..

Deleted-user-3 · Post by **Deleted-user-3** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:04 pm

https://shellystore.co.uk/product/shelly-em-50a/

Bingo!

Neelix · Post by **Neelix** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:14 pm

cwplastering wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:21 pm IMG_20221224_110427.jpg

That’s not pretty and very poorly labelled but does suggest that the PV is feeding into this installation.

I still think you are clutching at straws regarding any FIT payments

Does she have an EICR ?

Deleted-user-3 · Post by **Deleted-user-3** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:16 pm

further thoughts on the EV charger cat 5 clampy thing... i bet they dont give a toss about the main fuse... more like watching the voltage doesnt drop too much or it fry the charger bit like running an old nicad power tool charger off a knackered generator...

Neelix · Post by **Neelix** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:17 pm

cwplastering wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:18 pm then again... the inverter was showing a reading of around 300 - 450 watts variable just as i was looking at it, and thats today, in the dead of winter around 11.30 am so still not exactly "nothing" thats the power of a fridge freezer....

Wrong.

A fridge freezer is normally less that that and 450 watts is usually enough to power the back ground stuff in a property

Deleted-user-3 · Post by **Deleted-user-3** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:22 pm

Neelix wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:14 pm distance unless large flex is used (Volt drop)

kinda worked out whos getting the payment..
phone call on 3rd will confirm
what im now wondering is this...
if i can monitor the wattage output by the pv system and also the wattage being used by the property at the same time independently..
then when the pv output is greater than the property needs then i can flick a relay which opens a separate circuit that is now completely free off charge, never mind the fit payments, this is a 240v circuit that is worth as much to me as what im getting charged for...
now lets just say i can do this without interfering in any way with anybody elses equipment..
would that be stealing electricity?
bearing in mind even if i could sell it back to the company, they pay me 15 p for it tops and sell it back to me at 50p..
im realising the best use for this is to heat water but either way, if youre stuck with selling the excess back to the "system" at a third of the price theyre gonna sell it back to you is this not still better? and legal?

Deleted-user-3 · Post by **Deleted-user-3** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:27 pm

Neelix wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:14 pm
cwplastering wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:21 pm IMG_20221224_110427.jpg
sorry dont know what an eicr is but its been tested twice that i know of, no since the ev was fitted though

That’s not pretty and very poorly labelled but does suggest that the PV is feeding into this installation.

I still think you are clutching at straws regarding any FIT payments

Does she have an EICR ?

Deleted-user-3 · Post by **Deleted-user-3** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:29 pm

Neelix wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:17 pm
cwplastering wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:18 pm then again... the inverter was showing a reading of around 300 - 450 watts variable just as i was looking at it, and thats today, in the dead of winter around 11.30 am so still not exactly "nothing" thats the power of a fridge freezer....
was guessing the figure was the output of the panels not what the house wa consuming its the readng off the inverter and the sun was actully out, i thought the fluctions were clouds going over the sun
Wrong.

A fridge freezer is normally less that that and 450 watts is usually enough to power the back ground stuff in a property

Neelix · Post by **Neelix** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:31 pm

In the winter PV generation maybe as low as zero per day, in the summer up to 30 kWh per day (depends on the number of panels)

This is a tenanted property and I would urge you not to meddle with ANY of the fixed wiring or systems. If you do and you are found out, your other half could be evicted

Neelix · Post by **Neelix** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:33 pm

cwplastering wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:27 pm
sorry dont know what an eicr is but its been tested twice that i know of, no since the ev was fitted though

An EICR is an electrical installation condition report. This is mandatory testing every 5 years and the landlord should give a copy to the tenant

This became law a while back

Deleted-user-3 · Post by **Deleted-user-3** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:39 pm

Neelix wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:17 pm
cwplastering wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:18 pm then again... the inverter was showing a reading of around 300 - 450 watts variable just as i was looking at it, and thats today, in the dead of winter around 11.30 am so still not exactly "nothing" thats the power of a fridge freezer....
Wrong.

A fridge freezer is normally less that that and 450 watts is usually enough to power the back ground stuff in a property

btw.. ere...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273309755901

Neelix · Post by **Neelix** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:53 pm

OP

You obviously don’t want to hear constructive input so maybe this thread should be closed off