Compliance certificates

[Dxc712]

I've recently had an instantaneous water heater installed.

I've asked to be provided with a certificate for the work.

In what cases is a compliance certificate needed and what's the process for judging that the work is granted the certificate?

Thanks

[Neelix]

Was a new circuit added to your fuseboard / consumer unit ?

[Dxc712]

Was a new circuit added to your fuseboard / consumer unit ?

These photos show the work that was done.

[ericmark]

That is a type AC RCBO and today we normally use type A and the consumer unit seems to be fusebox, but the new RCBO is British General this rings alarm bells to me. Most seems to be wired in mineral insulated cable, only the new circuit is not, and so one wonders why?

It however may be compliant, but the electrician will need to be a scheme member to get that certificate, the other option is to get a completion certificate, it is clearly a new circuit so it will in England or Wales require one.

[Dxc712]

That is a type AC RCBO and today we normally use type A and the consumer unit seems to be fusebox, but the new RCBO is British General this rings alarm bells to me. Most seems to be wired in mineral insulated cable, only the new circuit is not, and so one wonders why?

It however may be compliant, but the electrician will need to be a scheme member to get that certificate, the other option is to get a completion certificate, it is clearly a new circuit so it will in England or Wales require one.

Thanks for your response.

I don't know anything about this. What is that rings alarm bells for you?

[OnlyMe]

That will be a type A RCBO. It's the CUCRB40A (from the Fortress range) not the AC type that would have been labelled CUCR40A.

However it should not be a BG RCBO. The circuit should also be labelled up.

As it's a new circuit you need an electrical installation certificate.

[Neelix]

Mix and match isn’t permitted. Get the muppet ego out that BG junk in the fuseboard back to fit the correct part.

So they owe you an EIC and if you are in England or Wales a part P compliance document

[Dxc712]

I'm sorry but I don't understand any of these responses as they use technical jargon that I'm not familiar with.

[Dxc712]

Mix and match isn’t permitted.

Which bit is the mix and match? The cable going into the side of the consumer unit or the new fuse?

Get the muppet ego out that BG junk in the fuseboard back to fit the correct part.

Did you mean to say 'Get the muppet who put that BG junk in the fuseboard back to fit the correct part' ?

What is the correct part that should have been fitted?

I don't understand what the problem is and so I won't be explain it to him. Any answer he gives will be something I can't respond to.

I won't be able to discuss something I don't understand.

So they owe you an EIC and if you are in England or Wales a part P compliance document

I live in England. Will anyone providing these documents have to come back to access the work first?

[Dxc712]

Can somebody please explain to me in non-technical terms what the problem is here and what needs to be changed?

For example, what needs to be taken out and what should replace it?

Is there and issue with the cable going into the side of the consumer unit or has the wrong fuse been put in? Or is it both?

I'm sorry but I'm struggling to follow the jargon.

[Neelix]

Just copy and paste my post into an email to the muppet you paid to install this and see what they say

[Dxc712]

Just copy and paste my post into an email to the muppet you paid to install this and see what they say

Thanks but first I want to have some understanding of what the issue is otherwise I won't be able to discuss it.

For example, I won't know if the correct part has been fitted if I don't know what the correct part is.

From what I can gather from the above posts, the wrong circuit breaker has been put into the consumer unit.

A British General circuit breaker has been fitted. Just so I understand, why is that the wrong to have done?

Type A and type AC have also been mentioned in this thread.

Which type should have been fitted instead? Is it type A?

Is there a specific name for the correct circuit breaker that should have been fitted?

Is there any problem with the cable that has gone into the side of the consumer unit?

Thanks

[Dxc712]

That will be a type A RCBO. It's the CUCRB40A (from the Fortress range) not the AC type that would have been labelled CUCR40A.

However it should not be a BG RCBO. The circuit should also be labelled up.

As it's a new circuit you need an electrical installation certificate.

Thanks. If it should not be a BG RCBO could you explain why that is and what should be there instead?

Am I correct in assuming that there isn't an issue with a cable going into the side of the consumer unit?

[Neelix]

Just copy and paste my post into an email to the muppet you paid to install this and see what they say

Thanks but first I want to have some understanding of what the issue is otherwise I won't be able to discuss it.

For example, I won't know if the correct part has been fitted if I don't know what the correct part is.

From what I can gather from the above posts, the wrong <a href="http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_nkw=circuit+breaker" class="skimwords-link" target="_blank" data-skimwords-id="877256" data-skimwords-word="circuit%20breaker" data-group-id="0" data-skim-creative="300003" title="Shopping Link Added by SkimWords" occurrence="1" data-skim-node-id="107:FromwhatIcangatherfr_1" style="">circuit breaker</a><span style="position: absolute;"></span><span style="position: absolute;"></span> has been put into the consumer unit.

A British General <span class="skimwords-potential">circuit breaker</span><span style="position: absolute;"></span><span style="position: absolute;"></span> has been fitted. Just so I understand, why is that the wrong to have done?

Type A and type AC have also been mentioned in this thread.

Which type should have been fitted instead? Is it type A?

Is there a specific name for the correct <span class="skimwords-potential">circuit breaker</span><span style="position: absolute;"></span><span style="position: absolute;"></span> that should have been fitted?

Is there any problem with the cable that has gone into the side of the consumer unit?

Thanks

All competent installers KNOW that mix and match isn't permitted in BS 7671

So the muppet you paid needs to return , remove the BG part and fit the appropriate breaker made by the manufacturer of the comsumer unit.

Have you got the paperwork yet?

[Dxc712]

All competent installers KNOW that mix and match isn't permitted in BS 7671

So the muppet you paid needs to return , remove the BG part and fit the appropriate breaker made by the manufacturer of the comsumer unit.

Thanks. What's the right circuit breaker for the consumer unit?

Do you need me to attach more photos for you to tell?

Is there a problem having a new cable go into the side of the consumer unit?

Have you got the paperwork yet?

Only the invoice. He contacted me afterwards to say that he would send notice of the works over to a colleague and any compliance certificate will be with me in 7 days.