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Hi, I have an old Valor Dimension electric fire which has a fire effect created by fan operated 'flames' and a halogen bulb in a GY6.35 fitting (see pic). We only use the light function on the fire but it has stopped working although the heater and the fan for the flame effect are working fine. In order, I replaced the bulb, then the transformer then the cable and connector between bulb and transformer but nothing has worked. Any ideas welcome. Thanks very much.
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You need a proper means of testing to establish what has failed. (You did ask) Changing parts at random rarely works.
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Thanks. I did ask and you're right. Was hoping for a quick fix!
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What were you wanting? someone who is not there to say? "Oh change the thinky part and you will be ok"

Sorry, as I said, changing parts at random rarely works. You need to establish what part is not working as it should. (Why not read my signature)
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What's the rating of the lightbulb and of the transformer?
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Bulb was 35W and transformer was max 60W. I changed bulb first (like for like) then transformer which is a Premium Electronic Lighting Transformer 0w - 105w
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I have looked at the old fires a few times, they used the heat from the bulb to make the small fan turn and cause the flicker, today we can buy Flicker Flame Candle Light Bulbs which are LED so likely will last for years, and I would consider removing the old system and replacing it with flickering bulbs.

Google shows me 4 x 3W for £9 you would also need bulb holders, but would be a good project that would last for years, and long as bulbs not put where it gets hot.
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Thanks very much for your thoughts. This fire uses a fan which blows bits of ribbon to create a flame effect. A 3d coal effect sheet (perspex?) is then backlit by the halogen bulb to create the glow. All not very energy efficient. Your idea is interesting and I will look into it. Thanks again
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The flame lamp ericmark mentions are not suitable for your fire. There is a picture of one below.

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They are very feeble, give off no useful light best used in multiples.

There is another LED flame lamp (see below)

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There are suitable for "carriage lamps" and tall lamp standards, but again, no use to you.

I have seen the type of light you have, most have a silk triangle and a couple of halogen lights and a fan blowing the fabric, they do look realistic. You still need to test, to establish why your light is not working.
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Ah that's useful thanks. My fire works in the way describe. I shall test!
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