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It's a commercial break I think!!...

tims post was indeed the correct call if you are a condescending tit that assumes the original poster hadnt thought of it first.

well you have to wonder about someone who let the problem get that far even after pointing it out to the fitters

you being a lazy c**t too?

tim'll fix it wrote:well you have to wonder about someone who let the problem get that far even after pointing it out to the fitters

The slope away from the house is very small so, unless you get your spirit level your not going to know. Also, have you tried to make a comment to a tradesman about his work. Response is something along the lines of "Are you a f**king carpenter, thought f**king not, why don't you f**k off and let me get on with it". And when you employ a trade you are expecting them to know what they are doing. If the customer had the knowledge they'd probably do it themselves

panlid wrote:you being a lazy c**t too?

yes I am on extended paternity leave

skiking wrote:

tim'll fix it wrote:well you have to wonder about someone who let the problem get that far even after pointing it out to the fitters

The slope away from the house is very small so, unless you get your spirit level your not going to know. Also, have you tried to make a comment to a tradesman about his work. Response is something along the lines of "Are you a f**king carpenter, thought f**king not, why don't you f**k off and let me get on with it". And when you employ a trade you are expecting them to know what they are doing. If the customer had the knowledge they'd probably do it themselves

if you employ someone like that what do you expect.

if a customer queried my work I would explain my actions politely, but then I am not a cowboy

As a customer its sometimes difficult working out whether the tradesman is good. Obviosuly, recommendations is the best way. If its a big job like an extention then seeing their work is the only way.

A few years back I had to have a new water main installed. Got 3 quotes very high, high, and nice and low. The v.highest spouted on about being the prefered workers for the water board and don't need inspections. The cheapest said you just get on with it. I went with the cheapest (:oops:) and they turned up on a Saturday (foreigner probably) and they looked rough as f*ck and I thought OMG what have I done. They were rough and ready but pleasant guys who explained what they were doing as I was worried about the block paving. Any way, long story cut short, job done nice and tidy, water board went mad, came down (eventually) and dug a hole to inspect, only to say it was OK then another week to fill the hole back in . Four years down the line, block paving is still OK and water preasure is fine - looks can be deceiving!

Kitchen fitters - top job but with the fitting but they found a problem with the electrics AFTER they had ripped all the existing units out. They wanted £500 to fit new ring main for the sockets even though part of the fit was to put a new ring main in for the cooker and add new sockets so putting a new ring main actually made it easier. 20m cable easy to lay as CU was just outside the kitchen. I eventually got them down to £200 but only after I told them to leave the site.

Sometimes you have to keep an eye on whats going on as at times things are done for the conveniance of the tradesman rather than the customer. Some trades look down at you when you ask questions or query the work whether the customer thinks its wrong just doesn't understand why its being done.

Its good to have the communication but it doesn't always happen and customers can be demanding and a pain in the rear - yes I can!

skiking wrote:
Its good to have the communication but it doesn't always happen and customers can be demanding and a pain in the rear - yes I can!

never ski you do surprise me

This is why I DIY for alot of things. Its not that I'm tight (I'd get a Pole in - actually I am tight, must have some Scottish blood in me or is that the Whiskey ) but I have expectations etc and I also enjoy doing things. It used to be limited to tiling and decorating that I enjoyed but since finding some dodgy forums I find I've got the confidence to do other things like plastering and knocking down walls

I'm now after expanding my knowledge on plumbing so watch out.

I know my limitations; I won't touch Gas nor will I do too much with the electrics.

well,,,that provoked some discussion.

Thanks for the constructive ideas and feedback

Also a small comeback to the lad that suggested in some way i should have prevented this and that i shouldn't have let it come this far......

Do you really think i would have the guts to ask for help if i hadn't made every reasonable effort to avoid and then rectify this situation.

Cowboys don't turn up with pistols hanging off belts and a couple of horses with decking timber hanging off thier saddles. I am therefore prepared to admit my apparenlty huge mistake,,,i didn't realise they were crap until they had done the job (which was too late as i'm sure you'll understand) and as i said i didn't exactly get much of a polite response when i challenged their work. I'll try harder tim i really will!!

Anyway, thanks for the help everyone, mainly spot on as usual on this site.

Steve

oh thats ok then, if I have someone doing something for me and its obvious they are cocking it up, I just let eh get on with it and face the consequences

ok shall we try not to point fingrs here

we all make mistakes we can all do with remembering that we trust the people we believe are experts
if they talk with enough authority we tend to believe them
and i for one have a lot to learn 8-)

Totally agree with you big-all, if some-one asks for help, then help them.