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Re: quick worktop question.
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:58 am
by fin
ahhhh..... like the top i think. ill get a picture later to compare if i can. i take it this makes a difference again.
Re: quick worktop question.
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:29 pm
by royaloakcarpentry
Big difference....
top ones you have to use a jig and router.
Bottom ones you butt them, mark where they meet and then cut through the laminate with a stanley knife. A sharp chisel will peel the laminate away and now you are ready to butt them together. Bit like a masons mitre but you are only taking the laminate away.
Re: quick worktop question.
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:58 pm
by fin
these are the tops... my mistake in the original post. oak block not beech block lol
http://www.howdens.com/product-range/ki ... ock-style/
so they have standard masons mitre then...
i was a bit worried as looking at the edge thats on these tops it looked a bit thick to peel away lol. ahh well i can crack on tomorrow.
looking at the underside of the tops where normally the laminate would wrap around. whats the craik with these? as theres no lam on the underside. is it a case of applying a bit varnish instead?
i probs am not coming across as that clever here lol. but as i said ive only fitted normal lam tops before. rather than this type. soo better ask than press on and be sorry afterwards.
Re: quick worktop question.
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:53 pm
by royaloakcarpentry
So that won't be a square edge worktop then you dozy great p177ock lol. Need to joint that one.
Just fitted a block laminate yesterday that was purely the chipboard showing on the underside. All down to staying competitive, me thinks. After all Buildbase are now doing 3M worktops for under £40.
Re: quick worktop question.
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:01 pm
by Colour Republic
The laminate should wrap round but not be as far as you are maybe use too, it might also have a drip edge (like a slight 'v' cut out)
Re: quick worktop question.
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:11 pm
by royaloakcarpentry
Just had one from Howdens with no drip and nil wrap around of the laminate.
Re: quick worktop question.
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:21 pm
by Colour Republic
Really??? Not come across one yet, was it a budget one?
Edit: reply about the drip edge was to Fin not in reply to your post as didn't see it before, whoops!
Re: quick worktop question.
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:25 pm
by royaloakcarpentry
Not sure because I didn't order it. I have noticed the quality dropping over the last few years though. Same thing with plasterboards (they no longer make a sharp snapping sound when bending them back after scoring).
Did Bushboard tops on last kitchen and they were fantastic to work with.
Re: quick worktop question.
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:49 pm
by Colour Republic
Nothing to do with the plasterboard mate, you're just getting old and your hearings going!
Re: quick worktop question.
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:58 pm
by fin
royaloakcarpentry wrote:So that won't be a square edge worktop then you dozy great p177ock lol. Need to joint that one.
Just fitted a block laminate yesterday that was purely the chipboard showing on the underside. All down to staying competitive, me thinks. After all Buildbase are now doing 3M worktops for under £40.
lol i know i know..... as i havent done this type before i thought it best to ask advice mainly from people like yourself who have wayy more experience than me at this type of thing. my experience being limited to standard worktops. my hope is that one day i can be somewhere near the level you guys are at. and i can pass my experience onto someone younger than i am.
Re: quick worktop question.
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:03 am
by fin
Colour Republic wrote:The laminate should wrap round but not be as far as you are maybe use too, it might also have a drip edge (like a slight 'v' cut out)
i had a look.... i was in a temper mind as i was pissed off with my dad. he can be awkward to work with sometimes.
the front edge is quite thick. but underneath is just bare chipboard from what i could tell. but with these being 616mm wide tops theres gonna be an overhang. i woulda thought the lam would wrap around a bit better. ill double check for a drip as you sugest though.
Re: quick worktop question.
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:11 am
by fin
royaloakcarpentry wrote:Not sure because I didn't order it. I have noticed the quality dropping over the last few years though. Same thing with plasterboards (they no longer make a sharp snapping sound when bending them back after scoring).
Did Bushboard tops on last kitchen and they were fantastic to work with.
ive mostly used bush board tops... they are very good to work with
these tops im fitting. theres an obvious glued on front edge. and the glue has all had to be scrapped off. at 80 quid each after discount there reasonably pricey for 3 meter lengths.
ohh dont get me on plaster board. my local merchants get that lafarge gtec stuff. its horrendous. think were gonna change to travis perkins if they dont buck their ideas up and get decent gear in stock.