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DWD

wedging still to come

custom made wrote:DWD

wedging still to come

I want to try fox wedging on this door and when I think about I haven't left myself any room really for normal wedges.

Or have I left enough room? Anyone

Fantastic quality of work CM - Very tidy! I'm watching this one carefully!

I think that it is safer wedging as that door is going to take a bit of weight in glass and a lot is dependent on the four M&T's holding true. To save typing the obvious, I found this which is quite useful http://americanwoodworker.com/blogs/tec ... tenon.aspx

I like the hole drilled in the tenon that prevents spitting in this example. Worth a bit of tinkering to get it as strong as you can.

DWD

Great article DWD

I really like the look of the finished wedges in the tenon

I think the point I wanted to make most was that if there is any shrinkage or expansion in the joint it could create a degree of movement that would allow the door to drop a tad and cause issues. As you are using through M&T's you can wedge it up nice and tight and also make a feature out of it showing the joint.

Victorian doors were often made simply wedged together with no glue and it is possible to pull them apart 150 years on. I saw this on telly once with Tommy Walsh and a bloke called Will Mockett. Cannot recall the show though.

DWD

Nice job. I was going to ask what method you use to cut the tennons but see you use a saw. Do you cut them on the De Walt SCMS or a Radial arm saw? Reason I am asking is on a SCMS you have to pack the timber out to get the cut level across the face of the tennon.

Mailee

I used my table saw for the tenons and then chisled off the rest od the waste. I then used the router table fitted with a straight bit to get a nice clean finish on the tenon

I was going to wedge up the door last night but only managed to cut the tapered mortice and drill relief holes in the tenons. I'll (hopefully) get around to cutting the wedges and gluing the door tonight!

Finally got around to gluing, wedging and clamping the first door. The fox wedges working out really well and I'm going to use this wedging method on the next door.

Hopefully I'll start the 2nd door tomorrow.

I'm not trying to teach you how to suck eggs but I think you will find Fox wedges are different. Those are just wedges, a fox wedge is one that is invisible to the outside and bottoms on a blind mortice. I used to make the same error in calling those fox wedges that's how I know.

I hear what you're saying it Mailee and agree Still, I would think this method of wedging is stronger than the standard method of wedging a m&t on a door stile.

mailee wrote:I'm not trying to teach you how to suck eggs but I think you will find Fox wedges are different. Those are just wedges, a fox wedge is one that is invisible to the outside and bottoms on a blind mortice. I used to make the same error in calling those fox wedges that's how I know.

thats the trouble with working on your[our] own we get confused pick up the wrong terminolligy with no one to correct us

I totally agree with you. Add to that the fact that you are not just relying on the glue but a mechanical joint too so will be a strong joint for many years to come.

I have been away the last few months with work hence my lack of activity. Finally got the doors finished. Will forward pics with architrave complete shortly.