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Magic Matt wrote:It may be if they are failing quickly that the circuit protection is simply doing its job and preventing a dangerous charge or discharge. Without thorough testing it's hard to tell.

SOME are failing, well, let's face it they'll all fail - some quicker than others. So for that money it's got to be worth a punt.

Do you work for Malita Matt?

Toolsdown are now matching this price!!

I bought one off ebay for my Makita Ni-cad and it's been fine over the past year.

I got two of them. No problems with charging or duds to date - althought TBH I put them on charge the minute they arrived (the one cell which keeps the chip "hot" can discharge in prolonged storage and if it discharges completely the battery is nixed by the charger - a problem Axminster had a couple of years back with their pattern batteries). I'm using them almost exclusively at the moment, splitting the usage between a brushless impact, a jig saw and an SDS, so most days I am recharging once or twice. The only comment I'd make is that the plastic seems to be a bit more brittle than the OEM batteries because I've managed to knock a small chip out of the edge of one of them (dropped off a scaffolding tower). When I purchase more I'll probably be going to ToolsDown because I've had great service in the past - the stories of Lenoge not meeting their legal requirements (i.e. to be contactable and to replace defective items) and Amazon sitting on their hands isn't something I like to hear.

I can only agree J&K. ToolsDown have a much better service than anyone else.
Thanks for you input.

Update (for anyone interested): My first two batteries have just passed 10 charges each without incident. They aren't really getting a hiding at the moment because of the nature of the work I am doing. They are being used in rotation with four other batteries (one Makita and three Axminsters) but are holding up well and showing no signs of fall-off in performance. main tools in use are DSS610 circular saw, BJV180 jigsaw, BHP241 SDS and BFP456 (?) brushless impact driver - so three of the worst "battery hog" tools I have in regular use. I can't really detect any fall-off in performance, but I do tend to remove batteries and pop them on the charger at the first signs of flagging (rather than floggiong them until they get hot - a sure fire way to kill Li-Ions). I also took the precaution of charging them fully the minute they arrived and before they went near a tool (yet another way to foobar a Li-Ion battery). I've been sufficiently satisfied that I purchased another two, which arrived today

I got one of the Amazon clones back last year. It's just died, it's only had light use and was working fine but the charger won't charge it anymore

darrenba wrote:I got one of the Amazon clones back last year. It's just died, it's only had light use and was working fine but the charger won't charge it anymore

But the charger still charges proper Makita batts ???

Yes, charger is working fine with the proper Makita batteries

Makita chargers flash alternate red and green lights and beep like hell when a battery is duff

Job and Knock wrote:Update (for anyone interested): My first two batteries have just passed 10 charges each without incident. They aren't really getting a hiding at the moment because of the nature of the work I am doing. They are being used in rotation with four other batteries (one Makita and three Axminsters) but are holding up well and showing no signs of fall-off in performance. main tools in use are DSS610 circular saw, BJV180 jigsaw, BHP241 SDS and BFP456 (?) brushless impact driver - so three of the worst "battery hog" tools I have in regular use. I can't really detect any fall-off in performance, but I do tend to remove batteries and pop them on the charger at the first signs of flagging (rather than floggiong them until they get hot - a sure fire way to kill Li-Ions). I also took the precaution of charging them fully the minute they arrived and before they went near a tool (yet another way to foobar a Li-Ion battery). I've been sufficiently satisfied that I purchased another two, which arrived today

Thanks J&K for your comprehensive input. We can only monitor these batteries as you have done & my finding are the same as yours; no noticeable decline in the performance.

Can I please point out that both J&K & I have no vested interest in any supplier of clone batteries, we are tradesmen that use these items on a daily basis.

Dickie wrote:Can I please point out that both J&K & I have no vested interest in any supplier of clone batteries, we are tradesmen that use these items on a daily basis.

I concur. I took a punt on two because I thought that sub-340 for two batteries wasn't too much of a gamble. To date It's paid off. I'll keep track of the next pair and when I get them to a reasonable number of charges i may well post again.

Buy two for £22.20;
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00M ... wvb0WE4R9V

Works well ?Could you give more information about this, why so many people give 1 star on amazon?

i had a clone dewalt one about 4 years ago. if i had been using the drill with the battery facing me i would done some serious damage to my belly or wedding tackal, as it happens, i had the drill battery part facing away from me as it EXPLODED on use. i since read many reports on clones being inferior build quality etc. i will never again buy a clone. if any of you had seen this happen you wouldn't either.
i was working next door to me and my missus came round to see if everything was ok because the bang was that loud she heard it.

was it a li-ion ??
was it a li-ion charger ??