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'Silicone failing'

Yep, you're right, I miss read

Back when I did the shops it was always 10mm gap due to being stipulated by pergo when you did the training with them.

When I did my Pergo training, the tutor went through expansion ratio's with us, as mentioned, 1 mm per linear meter. A good example being stair installations. You wouldn't leave a 10 mm gap each side of each step. A 1 meter square of laminate will not expand 10 mm, unless it's been dropped in a pool..By which time, I'd be calling that pulp

Always loved quickstep and still do. Although I did a pergo floor last year begrudgingly, and i was amazed how much it has changed in the way it goes together. Certainly come on from the early days of there clic system when you would get the fourth row in and the first would pop out lol.

Agreed..Pergo are actually using the unilin locking system for some of there ranges so that may account for the better fitting. I've got to say Pergo can't be beat for it's High pressure laminate. Surely you must agree ROC? Quick-Step is amazing stuff and I absolutely love it but there majestic range just doesn't cut it for commercial use due to the lack of a HP surface IMO.

I've not fitted Pergo for a while, is the core still that particle board or just straight HDF?

Very hard and against the grain to turn it away when you need it coming in fairly quickly.

You're absolutely right. I can get booked up for a good few weeks but on average for me 2 weeks is about right. I'm very much not in your position of being able to knock work back. Must be a good feeling ROC

knocking back work feels weird and against the grain because in the recession of 20 years ago, I struggled to get 4 weeks work a year at times. Due to being younger, I think and the new influx of cheap foreign labour coming in. It is more work where you know the finish won't be great or could lead to problems due to materials the client wants.

When I trained with pergo it was a day course, 10mm expansion joints even around rad pipes, l-shaped halls as two floors on occassions. Chimney breasts were meant to have expansion joint either side but they honoured the warranty if you didn't do it. Only glued floors then and they tested the glue if there was a failure to make sure it was pergo glue. chip particle back board that fell apart as you fitted it.

The pergo i did last year was one of the thin engineered floors. Veneer on an hdf (I think) base board. You could get the joints together flat too which was a bonus.

Quickstep is normally classic when we do it.I didf do a flat in the plastic gear last year........aqualoc I think it is called.

i sub contract all the floors off a firm so they do the makes I recommend. Quickstep, Kahrs, or Tarkett. So I can't compare a wide range of floors. I have just had to do a howdens tile effect floor and never again. As bad as the b&q tile effect flooring.

I doubt you will have had a floor cause problems in a bathroom. The only time I have seen trouble is when multiple rooms have been done as one floor. i have taken floors up with 2mm expansion and it has been down for years with no problems lol.

The quickstep deck looks extremely nice, by the way.

When I trained with pergo it was a day course, 10mm expansion joints even around rad pipes, l-shaped halls as two floors on occassions. Chimney breasts were meant to have expansion joint either side but they honoured the warranty if you didn't do it. Only glued floors then and they tested the glue if there was a failure to make sure it was pergo glue. chip particle back board that fell apart as you fitted it.

Yep same here. Guess they were quite sketchy back then. The particle core didn't just fall apart, as with most things chip like it was a pain in the neck for little unseen bits stopping the boards from closing. Them were the days, strapping up every laminate floor. When the click became mainstream, I had a party

You could get the joints together flat too which was a bonus.

Drop click is rapid on the straights and a bit of a pain if you land at the end runs with slithers. Can't knock it to much though. If your interested take a look at how they make the engineered stuff a-video-showing-how-engineered-flooring ... 60164.html ...I was very surprised at what goes into it. Quick-Step video, not Pergo though.

I have just had to do a howdens tile effect floor and never again. As bad as the b&q tile effect flooring.

Yep, pants. I'm pretty confident they use the Kronospan make up. Although, recently improved still not great (chips, ghosting, miss prints, miss cuts, brittle locking system etc etc etc)

The quickstep deck looks extremely nice, by the way.

Yea, very nice stuff. An acquired taste

Wes wrote:I hope that's answered your question Julian

Thanks Wes.

Wes wrote:'will my customers floor pop up or show signs of compression failure' due to the none fixed (floating) nature of a laminate installation

- and yes that's what I was really thinking of - Cheers