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getthewheelsinline wrote:Some progress on the living room! Today I had a plaster down from Glasgow to teach me skimming who runs his own plastering school.

Armed with my new Marshalton 13x5 Permashape Golden Stainless Steel I was sent to work under the guidance of a pro!!

I had PVA'd the walls 5:1 last night. Tapped the joints and added the metal corner tape to the window reveal.

2 coat skim then 3 polish coats. Having tapped in the past helped as I have OK trowel & hawk skills.

We hit one window wall first to give me a chance to learn technique. Picked up pretty fast...

Moved onto the ceiling - oh boy that's hard work! But the pair of us worked at it until mirror smooth!

The last wall (4m wide x 2.8m High) I was left on my own! Sweat was dripping trying to fire the multi finish on.
Kept at it & with each polish the surface came very good! Good sense of achievement to get that on my first day!

Anyway, pictures:
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After
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Skimmed wall by my very own hand!
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Looking good :0)


Can I ask how you did the 3 Polish coats ? I could do with getting a better finish on my skimmed walls .
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ahll wrote:
Looking good :0)

Can I ask how you did the 3 Polish coats ? I could do with getting a better finish on my skimmed walls .
Make sure you have a decent trowel. As mentioned above I went for a pre-worn Marshalton Perma-shape - £40 delivered.

First coat ; apply multi finish starting at left hand wall, standing on floor run plaster up tight against the wall the length of trowel to above head height. Split wall into sections. First travel across wall applying 50% of trowel over last vertical stroke working from waist height up to above head height apply vertically then arc to the right at full stroke. On the back stroke work plaster in where you applied plaster on the previously stroke.
Work till at right hand side, now go back to left hand side and fill vertically from bottom to waist height overrunning the band previously applied. Continue to end of wall.
On ladders apply plaster again vertically from head height towards ceiling, stopping just short with the arc. Work down from ceiling to match with the vertical strokes. Continue along wall ensuring you apply plaster vertically then back stroke on the previous vertical line.

Don't try to get this too smooth as long as it is of even thickness! Target ~2mm.
Doing the above procedure will help to get this applied as even as possible!

Second coat is generally just the same however only applying ~1mm. You can combine the waist > head height & bottom to waist height in the same vertical stroke. Then just complete from head height to ceiling as before.

1st Polishing:
Allow the plaster to pick up. Wash tools out & have a brew.
15minutes was fine in my case as I was skimming new plaster board. Your substrate may alter this along with the working conditions.
Dry trowel the exact same process/technique as 2nd coat however no need to apply plaster this time.
Clean up tools.

2nd polishing:
Wait 10mins.
Repeat 1st polishing stage but water as required. The surface will have started to firm so pressure can be applied to start smoothing
Clean up all wall & ceiling joints with trowel or sponge.

3rd polishing:
Wait 10/15mins.
Repeat 2nd polishing stage but water sprayed at the start of your stroke, I.e where your trowel will start.

If 4th polish is required just follow the same process until it is mirror smooth!!

This is not an absolute guide!! Just the basics I picked up yesterday! This is a tactile process and one that needs hands on experience - hence the reason I opted for on the job experience!

If anyone wants a go I've got a fair few walls needing skimmed...ha!
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Thanks all for the positive words!

Skimmed the window reveal this afternoon!
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Progress slowed with the living room as I have been working on the dining room! Also had planning drawings done for the alterations to the middle section of the house & also the new rear extension!

Trial fitted one of the radiators & cut the window board, which needs to be narrowed.
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Fireplace lining was done with 12mm cement board with drywall adhesive. Still need to cut the closure plate for the flue liner & screw this to the underside of the lintel.
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Went to Glasgow Architectural Savage to look for a slate hearth. Had plenty of snooker table slate but these were too narrow.
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Managed to find a Billiard table slate at 1450mmx900mmx30mm which is big enough for my requirements (1250x800). Had to quick cut the slate when collecting as the original length was too long for my pickup!!
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Skimmed the fire wall today.
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That's the room completely skimmed bar the front window reveal which I will do tomorrow night!
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Coming on nicely.

massive shame about the plastic windows though.
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royaloakcarpentry wrote:Coming on nicely.

massive shame about the plastic windows though.
Thanks ROC.

I'm happy enough with the uPVC sliding sash windows. If money was no option I could of opted for hardwood units I guess.
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Finished Skimming the room tonight - I'm very pleased with the finish with it being the first room I have ever done!!

Plan to cut the slate hearth on Thursday night and bed this on cement onto the construction hearth.

Anyone know what tools & materials to use to polish slate?
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Great you're doing there. Anymore updates?
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custom made wrote:Great you're doing there. Anymore updates?
Thanks. Making slow progress inside as still working on slating the outside when I get the time. Seriously busy at work just now so can't complain as the house seems to be a money pit!

I did submit planning permission for my large extension along with my 8mx7.5m garage....so hopefully this gets approved!.... Fingers crossed!

Cut the slate hearth & my wife polished it with a small detailing sander 60grit wet and dry before cementing this in position! It was very heavy but we are happy with the end result and with some slate oil will finish it off nicely!
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Ordered all my flue pipe fittings & 904 st/st liner from stovefittermanual. Very informative website & the owner was also helpful during ordering. If you are considering a stove installation then his site is worth a read!
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I worked out I needed a greater offset than just the two 45deg bends, so I have added a 70mm straight between them. This ensures it clears the chimney lintel & keeps a good air gap all round the stove.

Need to sweep the chimney for the final time, remove the chimney pot and install the liner onto the top plate. After which I can get the stove in position :)
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Skim looks very good and from the pics it doesn't show that you haven't done it before.
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looking good :thumbright:
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The plastering really lookd great, well done :thumbright: Wish I had the same finish when I was doing my attic conversion.
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Moving on... Managed to get the chimney pot removed, flue liner fitted, top plate bedded on lime mortar mix to protect the sandstone.

Then fitted the stove and pipe. Used stainless steel pop rivets to join the stove pipe fittings and then secured this to the flue liner using an adapter. The closure plate was then sealed with a plate and gasket.

Have since given the room a coat of contract emulsion as the mist coats. 40% water dilution for first coat and 15% for second coat.

Thanks goes to dynamod for the answers to my PM's re: paint and equipment suggestions. So need to get ordering some decent gear....
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Living room has since turned back into a storage room while I concentrate on the dining room bringing it up to the same standard as the living room!
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After having stripped the plasterboard & plaster from the walls I decided to dig up the concrete floor as it wasn't in great condition... This is an action shot of me with the trusty kango...
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The slab was only an 1" in some sections layed directly onto the soil. 44boxes later..
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The room looked something like this...
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Now need to calculate how deep I need to excavate to allow for Hardcore, sand, DPM, insulation, floor slab then screed. If only I could get my mini digger in!

Not sure of the required thickness of materials and in what order so may create a new thread looking for answers! My walls are circa 500mm solid stone so no DPC therefore not sure how to tie the floor DPM onto the walls....do i just have the excess DPM going behind my foil backed insulated plasterboard?!?

Got the next three days off work so plan to crack on with some works!!
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Well done, you have done really well considering you are working and doing this project in your in free time. :thumbright:

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