Maintenance work

[strongservices]

Hi all,

Just wondered what people class Minor non notifiable work as maintenance, as I see it come up now and then and wondering what electrical work classes as this ( I have in my head it's replacing a light for like for like or socket / switch outlet covers)

Also would you need to issue a minot work certificate if the work is classed as maintenance?

Thanks

[Neelix]

Why the question

[strongservices]

I'm asking the question as I was speaking to someone at work, I personally would issue a mwc for any little work to cover myself I've read in several places as I was studying that some won't issue work for what is regarded as maintenance.

Whether this is good practice or not in asking the wider audience and people with more experience the ln me.

As I said original the maintenance term seems a grey area and I'm just asking that is all for the questions.

I'd rather ask a silly question then nothing at all

[ericmark]

With own house I would not bother with a MWC, but other persons house it helps protect me. Should some thing go wrong latter, you can refer back to the MWC, it is of course down to who the HSE think are telling the truth, but if you show on a minor works ELI of 0.83Ω and the HSE measured 230Ω it would seem likely some one has been playing after you left. To enter 0.83Ω it seems likely it was tested, not a simple guess.

However I have filled in that many forms, I am sure I could guess results reasonable close so would be hard to prove I had guessed.

So the MWC is no proof, but unlikely some one not testing would bother making one out.

As to like for like, what is like for like? Replace a 13 amp socket with another 13 amp socket of any make, or if a MK must it be replaced with MK? The one I noted was a shower unit, both same make and looked identical, but new one says should be protected with a 30 mA RCD. Old one likely did not say that, but paperwork that came with it long gone.

So if no RCD can you replace the shower without adding a RCD? I would say no, and this does cause problems when not a scheme member, you go to do a simple job, but then find it needs more, I very rarely do domestic, so in the main don't need scheme membership, but on the odd time, usually to help some one out, it is a OK I will have a look, and if no RCD I say yes I can fix, but you will need to pay the LABC £100 plus vat, so your better off getting some one who is a scheme member to fix it.

The problem is when they say can't find a scheme member electrician to fix it, can you do it please, I explain they need to register the work, so once done I know they will need to submit the installation certificate to the LABC, so make one out, but since the LABC do not issue permits to work, if the owner did not register the work, I would not know.

[Neelix]

I'm asking the question as I was speaking to someone at work, I personally would issue a mwc for any little work to cover myself I've read in several places as I was studying that some won't issue work for what is regarded as maintenance.

If this is in YOUR workplace as part of YOUR EMPLOYERS work and its up to them, but I suspect they would state you would need to issue the cert

[ericmark]

Many places I worked, we filled in diary or time sheet detailing work done, so there was still a record of who did what, and can see how minor works were not completed, when you have 12 people standing idle while your filling in a minor works for last job would not go down well. With maintenance work it is often a case of if that machine does not run loosing £100 per hour and this one loosing £750 per hour likely can fix other machine in 5 minutes but this one will likely take an hour which shall I fix first.

Filling in a minor works is the last thing on your mind.