new dishwasher with plug

jezzar · Post by **jezzar** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:33 pm

My old dishwasher gave up last week and my replacement arrived today.
The old dishwasher was hard wired but the new dishwasher has a plug.
So I was going to replace the outlet plate with a switched socket. Any advice welcome.
See pic for details

fin · Post by **fin** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:02 pm

if its an integrated machine and the outlet is behind the machine you might find it doesnt fit. probably why it was hard wired in the first place. just as easy to cut off the plug and wire it to the outlet plate to be honest.

make sure you remove the fuse from the plug when ya cut it off. or atleast thats what i do anyway just incase i guess

jezzar · Post by **jezzar** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:08 pm

the plug fits ok behind the integrated dishwasher..just wanted to know if it would work that way rather than cutting the plug off. Thanks

Someone-Else · Post by **Someone-Else** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:39 am

Yes, if you change the flex outlet to a socket and connect it accordingly, no problem. Appliances really should be connected via plug and socket, that way the appliance is easier to service and test, most manufacturers stipulate the appliance must be connected via the supplied plug, failure to do so, invalidates the warranty. The reason is "back in the day" things did not come with a pre fitted plug, and if the plug was not fitted right it can (and did) cause problems. I can only assume the kitchen fitters did not see the point of a socket when there is an FCU above said socket. Ideally, the FCU should be changed to a double pole 20A switch.

fin · Post by **fin** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:40 am

youve hit lucky then. ive just fitted an integrated dishwasher and i dount the plug woulda have gone behind it. i mostly find that sparkys put a socket in the cabinet beside the dishwasher. ive also just fitted a tower fridge and freezer and had to put flex outlets on both as they wouldnt slide back in the cabinets with plugs fitted.

mad the amount of people that dont know how to wire a plug like. we did it at school in the 90's

is there not usually a label on flex's and advice in instruction manuals about wiring should it be necessary to remove the fitted plug? only time ive ever seen anything about invalidation warrantys is on small ovens sold by the likes of howdens which state if theyre wired to a plug then the warranty is invalid.

dewaltdisney · Post by **dewaltdisney** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:54 am

In days gone past I recall Comet had a big tub of 13amp plugs for sale by the tills, they were at rip-off prices. I recall buying a washing machine and saying if you throw in the plug I will have it. The assistant said I can't do that so I said neither can I then, goodbye. He said hang on I will ask my manager which of course was agreed. I think the plug was 70p. Where is Comet now....tight bastards.

DWD

Neelix · Post by **Neelix** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:53 am

Don’t change the fused spur but do remember that you have 2 x 13A fuses in series so check both of the washing machine stops working

jezzar · Post by **jezzar** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:30 pm

thanks for all your comments.

Interesting comment regarding the plug fuse and the spur fuse together.
Could this cause a problem as suggested by Neelix? Could it cause the dishwasher to turn off mid cycle?
How would I go about solving this without cutting off the plug.

Someone-Else · Post by **Someone-Else** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:03 pm

jezzar wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:30 pmCould this cause a problem as suggested by Neelix?

What problem?

jezzar wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:30 pmCould it cause the dishwasher to turn off mid cycle?

Mightdo, but if it does (In years to come) it, will be nothing to with how it is connected.

jezzar wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:30 pmHow would I go about solving this without cutting off the plug.

What problem?

I believe you are not quite grasping what you are being told.

Neelix never said there is a problem, he seems to have made a couple of grammatical errors, what he meant to say was, IF you dishwasher appears to be dead at anytime, obviously you should check the fuse in the plug, but don't forget there is another fuse in the FCU above the work top, also it is a dishwasher you have not a washing machine. Do as you first suggested and all will be well.

jezzar · Post by **jezzar** » Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:25 pm

Thank you for all your help