New electric hob installation

dazzyboy10 · Post by **dazzyboy10** » Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:36 pm

I'm not sure if this is in the right section but here goes.

I planned on having an electrician tomorrow to have a new electric hob installed, but as I've never cut a worktop for one before, I didn't realise that 150mm from cupboards or walls was required on the sides. As we got rid of our cooker, I installed a new 600mm cabinet in its place (next to a larder) as we needed the extra space, in hope of having the hob on top. Does this 150mm have to be adhered to or could I go to 100mm as I have seen some video installations of fitters going to 100mm, even though the manual does state 150mm.

Many thanks

arco_iris · Post by **arco_iris** » Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:52 pm

Not sure what you're asking as regulations generally concern combustible materials ABOVE not to sides. See this link:

https://ao.com/help-and-advice/guides-a ... guides/hob

:dunno:

dazzyboy10 · Post by **dazzyboy10** » Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:04 pm

arco_iris wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:52 pm Not sure what you're asking as regulations generally concern combustible materials ABOVE not to sides. See this link:

https://ao.com/help-and-advice/guides-a ... guides/hob

The installation manual that came with our hob, states that there needs to be at least 150mm clearance on the sides from walls or cabinets

Neelix · Post by **Neelix** » Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:56 pm

New one on me …. What make and model have you got ?

dazzyboy10 · Post by **dazzyboy10** » Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:05 pm

Neelix wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:56 pm New one on me …. What make and model have you got ?

Hoover H-HOB 500 CERAMIC HH64BV

Neelix · Post by **Neelix** » Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:32 pm

dazzyboy10 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:05 pm
Neelix wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:56 pm New one on me …. What make and model have you got ?
Hoover H-HOB 500 CERAMIC HH64BV

Interesting. I see what you mean but I suspect countless kitchen designers aren’t aware of this

dazzyboy10 · Post by **dazzyboy10** » Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:00 pm

Neelix wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:32 pm
dazzyboy10 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:05 pm
Neelix wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:56 pm New one on me …. What make and model have you got ?
Hoover H-HOB 500 CERAMIC HH64BV
Interesting. I see what you mean but I suspect countless kitchen designers aren’t aware of this

On that note then, should I stick to those guidelines?

big-all · Post by **big-all** » Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:49 pm

ok my thoughts
its heat transfer and indeed the danger off fire 'delamination 'discolouration off mfc panels by heat
now my suggestion would be 100mm will be ok but protect with something like chopping board temporary up stand baking tray whatever by carefully touching until you have worked out the heat level will be A ok and cool B a bit warm but ok C really not happy so up stand or other solution needed

fin · Post by **fin** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:06 am

i fit kitchens fairly regular.

gas hobs obvoiusly stuff to be aware of. not having the worktop upstand running behind the hob. that would be knackered instantly.

electric hobs not so much of a problem. indeed many kitchens are designed with upstands such as this and ive also actually just fitted one like that.

that said kitchen has a induction hob 600mm and above it there is a 600mm cabinet. with an extractor.

if you run say a restaurant and you have massive quantities and lots of heat it may be a concern. domestic kitchens are sometimes a little different.

dazzyboy10 · Post by **dazzyboy10** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:22 am

fin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:06 am i fit kitchens fairly regular.

gas hobs obvoiusly stuff to be aware of. not having the worktop upstand running behind the hob. that would be knackered instantly.

electric hobs not so much of a problem. indeed many kitchens are designed with upstands such as this and ive also actually just fitted one like that.

that said kitchen has a induction hob 600mm and above it there is a 600mm cabinet. with an extractor.

if you run say a restaurant and you have massive quantities and lots of heat it may be a concern. domestic kitchens are sometimes a little different.

Well we don't have upstands but there are tiles. We spend more time using our air fryer and grill than the hob, hence why we got rid of our oven. It'll only be used for things like boiling veg/potatoes, frying eggs, making omelette etc. All proteins get cooked in air fryer or grill.

big-all · Post by **big-all** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:00 am

dazzyboy10 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:22 am
fin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:06 am i fit kitchens fairly regular.

gas hobs obvoiusly stuff to be aware of. not having the worktop upstand running behind the hob. that would be knackered instantly.

electric hobs not so much of a problem. indeed many kitchens are designed with upstands such as this and ive also actually just fitted one like that.

that said kitchen has a induction hob 600mm and above it there is a 600mm cabinet. with an extractor.

if you run say a restaurant and you have massive quantities and lots of heat it may be a concern. domestic kitchens are sometimes a little different.
Well we don't have upstands but there are tiles. We spend more time using our air fryer and grill than the hob, hence why we got rid of our oven. It'll only be used for things like boiling veg/potatoes, frying eggs, making omelette etc. All proteins get cooked in air fryer or grill.

an upstand is simply a designated area with suitable materials and tiles fully comply with that description

aeromech3 · Post by **aeromech3** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:51 am

I came across this requirement when exploring changing from glass electric to induction; as well as heat transfer to adjacent cupboard or wall side, the 150mm I took as allowing saucepan handles to safely hang over the sides of the hob and not the front, back or indeed over the other heating surfaces/burners.

arco_iris · Post by **arco_iris** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:58 am

Agree with aeromech3, it's for practicality. Any hob is a lot better with space either side, to remove hot pans, place lids while stirring, etc.

dazzyboy10 · Post by **dazzyboy10** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:38 am

aeromech3 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:51 am I came across this requirement when exploring changing from glass electric to induction; as well as heat transfer to adjacent cupboard or wall side, the 150mm I took as allowing saucepan handles to safely hang over the sides of the hob and not the front, back or indeed over the other heating surfaces/burners.

I completely understand that and does make sense. We've had this larder in place for about 6 years and had 2 cookers next to it in that time. Don't think we've ever had more than 2 pans being used at once and never had any accidents or incidents with it being that close to it.

dazzyboy10 · Post by **dazzyboy10** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:00 pm

arco_iris wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:58 am Agree with aeromech3, it's for practicality. Any hob is a lot better with space either side, to remove hot pans, place lids while stirring, etc.

I get that more space is practical but we don't have that luxury, plus, the link you sent me for AO.com, does state a minimum of 40mm for space on the sides!