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Tiling onto fresh plaster / priming
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:15 am
by Andrew
Hi, just plastered my bathroom. All dry now!
The parts where I am going to tile, do they need priming or preparing? For instance, do they need to be rubbed down, scratched, etc?
Also, if you can't use PVA as a primer, why is it that on the back of Wickes' and Unibond's tile adhesive does it say to use PVA to prime the area?
If I was going to use PVA, should it be the waterproof one or the normal one?
I'm sure this is going to cause a row...
Many thanks!
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:25 pm
by Tryanything
Hi Andrew
Read the sticky about PVA at the top of the tiling forum
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:44 pm
by Andrew
I have, that's why I know about it. It says on it to refer to the manufacturer's instructions, but they say use PVA.
So what's up with that?
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:43 pm
by Tryanything
If your happy with the manufacturers instructions then go with them
I'm not saying there right or wrong, PVA is known as a general purpose sealer
But l never use it the same as a lot of professional tilers dont
My own personal reason for not using it is if pva becomes live again when
moisture is introduced that turns on a red light for me
Good luck with your decision
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:22 pm
by Andrew
So what would you use if you were using a Unibond or Wickes tile adhesive?
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:48 pm
by ultimatehandyman
If it is in a kitchen use normal PVA as it won't get wet like it will in a bathroom.
If it is in a shower area, then use waterproof PVA.
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:39 pm
by Tryanything
Don't do much ceramic tiling or use the ready mixed products you mention
Fixing mostly natural stones and use powder adhesive from tile merchants
Primers used are Bal-prime APD, Ardex 51, Howtex Universal Primer depending
on the adhesive and surface to be tiled
So if your asking me what primer to use with the products you mention l would
use one of the the above as personally l would'nt like to use PVA
Most adhesive manufacturers recomend to leave new plaster for 4 weeks before tiling
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:11 pm
by Only-Me
Get to Topps tiles and get Acrylic primer
And Don't use adhesive/grout all in one kind of shite.
Have a word in topps
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:41 pm
by Andrew
The last time I went into Topps, i went expecting really big savings but only to find they were more expensive than the same tiles at B&Q!
Still, I will pop in there and ask. They were helpful to say the least and so I might get the adhesive and primer from them (and the tiles from B&Q!).
Many thanks.
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:17 am
by Andrew
I went into Topps Tiles and the man there said I didn't need a primer on fresh plaster, just a big ol' tub of BAL Grip.
Then he said all grout is porous and so I'll be needing to paint it with a grout sealer.
Did I have mug on my forehead or was he right?
By the way, I didn't buy anything.
However, ScrewFix have some sort of acrylic primer "for dusty walls" or something. Will this do to seal new plaster?
God, why is everything so complicated?! I think it's all designed to put DIYer's off, you know...it's a conspiracy!
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:59 am
by Jaeger_S2k
I used a Bal primer on new plaster board to seal the board and stop it drawing the adhesive to fast.
His comment 'all group is porous' is a little general, swimming pool grout?