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Drayton LP 522 Dual Channel Programmer Query

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:42 am
by rautospoon
A general query that I have been thinking about for a while.

I want my CH system (Vaillant ecoTec Plus open-vent boiler) to "come on" as follows as I find these timings work fine for me :

Early morning : heating 1 hour - hot water 1/2 hour

Evening : heating 1 hour - hot water 1/2 hour

What are the "pro's and con's" in terms of cost of gas and in terms of efficiency of heating and water temperature in having the heating and hot water "coming on" together as opposed to separately ?

Basically which is best ?

Many thanks.

Drayton LP 522 Dual Channel Programmer Query

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:20 pm
by Neelix
If you have an S plan system heating water separately is more efficient

Drayton LP 522 Dual Channel Programmer Query

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:46 pm
by rautospoon
Neelix wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:20 pm If you have an S plan system heating water separately is more efficient
I have a single 3 way valve - is that a Y plan ?

Drayton LP 522 Dual Channel Programmer Query

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:58 pm
by gas4you
Yes

Drayton LP 522 Dual Channel Programmer Query

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:27 pm
by rautospoon
Taking account of the fact that I have Y plan system, can anyone oprovide a definitive answer to my original post ? Many thanks.

Drayton LP 522 Dual Channel Programmer Query

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:13 pm
by gas4you
If you have the dhw come on first it will heat the water quickly, then when the heating comes on the full power of the boiler will heat the rads quicker.

Drayton LP 522 Dual Channel Programmer Query

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:35 pm
by rautospoon
gas4you wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:13 pm If you have the dhw come on first it will heat the water quickly, then when the heating comes on the full power of the boiler will heat the rads quicker.
Many thanks for that but sorry to be dim (!) do you mean mean water on then water off then heating on. If so, that is fine in terms of "efficiency of heating water and rads", how about in terms of cost, presumably more gas is used with water and heating "on" separately rather than water and heating "on" together or is there another rationale ?

Drayton LP 522 Dual Channel Programmer Query

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:34 pm
by gas4you
If you have the water on first for say 30 minutes, the water will go off on the cylinder thermostat.

Drayton LP 522 Dual Channel Programmer Query

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:17 am
by Agile
If your house and water use are average then it is slightly more efficient to heat the water at the same time!

Because the boiler needs to run the pump for a shorter time and the boiler is less efficient when delivering a low output for just the cylinder.