Nail Gun

skiking · Post by **skiking** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:09 pm

Hi All - I got a cordless Allnailer for Xmas (off the Missus so I have to tread carefully) which is from BnQ. Its one of these where you put the nail into the jaw of the gun and it gently hammers away. I'm sure I've seen a thread on this type of tool either here or on SFX/TT but I can't find it. My gut reaction from a quick play of it is 'whats the point' so I'm thinking of exchanging it for something else (bag of nails and a hammer

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What are peoples views on this nailer ?

Post by **ultimatehandyman** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:13 am

Is this the one-

http://www.gmcompany.com/index.cfm?modu ... ts&pid=479

skiking · Post by **skiking** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:14 am

Yep, thats the one. When I Google'd I didn't find much on it, not that I looked that hard - can't type, have beer in hand and eat mince pie at the same time so something had to give way i.e. the computer.

Whats your view on it ? I do actually need to sink alot of nails as I've a false ceiling (wood panelling) to put up and some (future) decking to do - thinking aloud again in earshot of the missus! but I feel that the task of putting a nail into the jaws of the thing somehow defeats the object of it

Post by **ultimatehandyman** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:08 am

I am not really familiar with it, but as you point out you have to put the nails into the jaws manually and so it seems a bit pointless to me.

I have a small electrical brad firing gun, that cost about £20 on special offer at screwfix, it is great for fastening beading in tight corners. Most people struggle doing this as your hand gets in the way of hitting the nail/pin.

For studwork and for decking I would use screws and not nails, a nailgun would be useful for the panneling, but as you have to load your with each nail, it would be a pain in the butt IMHO.

skiking · Post by **skiking** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:32 pm

Clearly one of those gas nailers is OTT for me and for the ceiling I will be sinking several hundred 'small' headless nails into the tongues of the panels so a brad nailer may be the best thing for me. For the final securing I can use this old fashioned thing....I think its called a hammer!

Your spot on with the screwing for the decking....been watchin' too many Tommy Walsh programmes

I think I'll swap the AllNailer for a circular saw (for my other projects) and look into a brad nailer - suggestions/advice on these will always be welcome

Post by **ultimatehandyman** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 1:06 pm

I have a model similar to this for the pinning/nailing

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro ... 2&ts=42854

Circular saws can be expensive, but they start at £20

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro ... 8&id=38500

or the titan one-

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro ... 6&id=60961

or even the Ryobi one-

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro ... 3&id=82704

There are plenty of bargains out there at the minute, I am not sure if B&Q still has the 20% off on powertools or not

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skiking · Post by **skiking** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:50 pm

Thanks for the links. I think I've got the circular saw bit covered from another link.

So, for the my first dumb question of the year....I think I know the answer to this but what is the difference between a brad and a nail ?

Still on the subject of the nail gun I've had a look at Tacwise as well. As one of my projects will be installing ceiling cladding and sinking secret nails into the T&G would this be of more use than a brad nailer ?

skiking · Post by **skiking** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:20 pm

....just to add more info for what I need in terms of a brad/nail gun I will also be adding architrave and a new wooden floor (not sure what type of floor so not sure what fixing to use yet). So, what I will be needing most is secret nailing (architrave and cladding T&G) and also normal fixing for securing the cladding to the ceiling.

Another question I have would be whether brads can be used in a 'normal' nail gun as in the link in my previous post. (sorry, clueless with tool technology)

Thanks.

Post by **ultimatehandyman** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:43 pm

I'm not sure myself, perhaps brad is an american term.

The gun I posted tihe link to fires brads apparently, these are like panel pins, but square.

When you fire them in the head is very small, you can get them with a brown head, but this comes off when fired ( mine did at least).

Brads

The link that you posted does not work (i'll edit and try and fix it now)

As you can see from the last link, the brads come in strips and so would be useless with your gun.

Post by **ultimatehandyman** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:48 pm

I'm not so sure about the tacwise nailer, I can't see what nails/brads you use with it?

The arrow one that I have is pretty good.

Smiffy has just bought a tacwise nailer, although it is a different model, perhaps he can comment on them?

skiking · Post by **skiking** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:07 pm

you may have amended the link already as it seems to work....or at least it does for me...Thx

Post by **ultimatehandyman** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:18 pm

skiking wrote:you may have amended the link already as it seems to work....or at least it does for me...Thx

There was a few extra letters on the url, that stopped the link working.

big-all · Post by **big-all** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:54 pm

ultimatehandyman wrote:I have a model similar to this for the pinning/nailing

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro ... 2&ts=42854

Circular saws can be expensive, but they start at £20

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro ... 8&id=38500

or the titan one-

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro ... 6&id=60961

or even the Ryobi one-

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro ... 3&id=82704

There are plenty of bargains out there at the minute, I am not sure if B&Q still has the 20% off on powertools or not ?

here you are uhm i have found the "pin gun" that we paid between £15 and £25 quid for--- the arrow 100

now where i come from special offer means less but here it means a bit more although i have seen it at £25 somwhere else if you want me to look

:o :o

http://www.tool-up.co.uk/shop/diy/ARRET100KIT.html

Post by **ultimatehandyman** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:58 pm

That's the baby!

A guy I work with bought about 20 and sold them all with no problems at all.

If you can find the cheaper one it may come in handy for someone

big-all · Post by **big-all** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:00 pm

yep i will look

but i couldnt belive over £60 as a special offer