Enough is Enough

EJJ150847 · Post by **EJJ150847** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:16 pm

http://www.enoughsenough.org/

MP's vote on Thursday whether to exclude their expenses from the Freedom of Information Act.
As a line manager I had to validate all itemised expenses for my staff, which was time consuming but required by the Government so why can't they do the same.

If you follow the link above you can make your wishes known to your MP.

John

thescruff · Post by **thescruff** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:45 pm

Not that they would have a vested interest in any vote

bgatty68 · Post by **bgatty68** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:08 pm

replied to my MP and insisted that she vote to make all MP's expenses public, but hey i'm not holding my breath

if you think about it though its really not in the publics interest to know where MP's get their plasmas, fitted kitchens, laptops, fitted bathrooms, home entertainment system, what sky package they have, mobile phone, DFS or SCS sofa, escort agency

, flights to middle east & Russia, theatre shows tickets, how many times they eat at the Ivy
we should mind our own business after all it's not our money -oops yes it is.

they ask to be voted in, they say they want to serve their community, and then they moan about "how much it costs to travel to london" how my heart bleeds for 'em, YOU KNEW THIS WHEN YOU STOOD FOR ELECTION

IDontBelieveIt · Post by **IDontBelieveIt** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:50 pm

Typical Old Boys Club....

UNtil you read this -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7842402.stm

There is hope yet for the ordinary man in the street.

Well I thought there was .... now I see that Northern Rock (remember them) have decided to pay out staff bonuses for 'doing a good job' and that asshole Brown Nose has said it is a matter for Northern Rock. No its NOT its a matter for British tax payers yo asshole Brown

Get the Gallows out lads we are going to need them soon if they carry on like this.

Tryanything · Post by **Tryanything** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:04 pm

MPs, Goverment are all a bunch of oxygen thieves

Cromwell had the right idea

Post by **ultimatehandyman** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:14 pm

Tryanything wrote:MPs, Goverment are all a bunch of oxygen thieves

Cromwell had the right idea

so did guy fawkes

It still amazes me why people celebrate bonfire night when the guy failed miserably

feva · Post by **feva** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:58 pm

im abit unsure over it, cos it would be good to know what they are spending our money on, but whats to stop a newspaper, coming out with MP for where bought some stationery for £10 but if they had gone two shops down they could of got it for £8.99 cos thats what they will do.

got to look at it from two points of view, keep it how it is, with the MP's working on there duties or taking time away from that doing accounts, all so we can see what they are spending and hope fully save money, but all that will happen is the MP's with hire another assistant on god nows what wage to do there accounts.

Rich-Ando · Post by **Rich-Ando** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:56 am

give the power back to the royals and abolish governments. at least when you had the royals in power they just beheaded you, our government's give us a slow death of a decade.

bgatty68 · Post by **bgatty68** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:13 am

I just got an E-mail back from my local labour MP(no i didnt vote for her) and you will not believe her answer to my question.
I asked if she would vote to keep MP's expenses to be made public.
Her answer was and this is the actual reply:

Thank you for your letter about the vote that was planned for Thursday
in the House of Commons in relation to the regulation of MPs'
expenses. The proposals have now been withdrawn as the Conservatives
have suddenly gone back on the position which had been agreed
previously in all-party discussions. However, as there has been
considerable confusion about this issue I thought it would be helpful
to explain the background.

MPs are currently able to claim for certain specified expenses in
connection with the staff and office facilities they need in order to
carry out their work at Westminster and in their constituencies, and
in order to provide for secondary accommodation either in their
constituency or in London. The money is administered by the House of
Commons and paid against invoices – MPs do not receive the money
themselves.

The government is keen to ensure that the system is modernised to ensure that:
- there is a very clear set of rules, which is publicly available
- all claims should require an invoice or receipt to be provided
- a robust audit of all claims should be carried out regularly by the
National Audit Office
- the public should know how much has been claimed for what
The proposals (copy attached) had been agreed in all-party discussions
and it was on this basis they were referred for a free vote on
Thursday.

The Conservatives have just this week gone back on their previous
agreement and tried to turn it into a Party Political issue. I guess
this means the cross-party discussions will now be reconvened to try
to get to another agreement – although of course there is no guarantee
the Conservatives will stick with the next agreement either. All this
does is mean the whole package of measures, including the more robust
audit, will continue to be delayed.

Now talk about going round the houses and not actually saying which way she will vote and then blaming the Tories for this when it's on the news the tories/lib dems want to make their expenses part of the FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT but labour have said that was not what was agreed

Raf · Post by **Raf** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:23 am

not to mention her accusation of party politics when her entire email is just that!

Feva i know what you're saying about the media but how many rags will it sell with stories like that all the time?

by any chance any of you seen some of the expenses some MP's get?

Geewizz · Post by **Geewizz** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:19 pm

bgatty68 wrote: Now talk about going round the houses and not actually saying which way she will vote

Read the first paragraph again. There isn't going to be a vote, so how can she tell you which way she will vote?

Post by **ultimatehandyman** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:23 pm

bgatty68 wrote:I just got an E-mail back from my local labour MP(no i didnt vote for her) and you will not believe her answer to my question.
I asked if she would vote to keep MP's expenses to be made public.
Her answer was and this is the actual reply:

Thank you for your letter about the vote that was planned for Thursday
in the House of Commons in relation to the regulation of MPs'
expenses. The proposals have now been withdrawn as the Conservatives
have suddenly gone back on the position which had been agreed
previously in all-party discussions. However, as there has been
considerable confusion about this issue I thought it would be helpful
to explain the background.

MPs are currently able to claim for certain specified expenses in
connection with the staff and office facilities they need in order to
carry out their work at Westminster and in their constituencies, and
in order to provide for secondary accommodation either in their
constituency or in London. The money is administered by the House of
Commons and paid against invoices – MPs do not receive the money
themselves.

The government is keen to ensure that the system is modernised to ensure that:
- there is a very clear set of rules, which is publicly available
- all claims should require an invoice or receipt to be provided
- a robust audit of all claims should be carried out regularly by the
National Audit Office
- the public should know how much has been claimed for what
The proposals (copy attached) had been agreed in all-party discussions
and it was on this basis they were referred for a free vote on
Thursday.

The Conservatives have just this week gone back on their previous
agreement and tried to turn it into a Party Political issue. I guess
this means the cross-party discussions will now be reconvened to try
to get to another agreement – although of course there is no guarantee
the Conservatives will stick with the next agreement either. All this
does is mean the whole package of measures, including the more robust
audit, will continue to be delayed.

Now talk about going round the houses and not actually saying which way she will vote and then blaming the Tories for this when it's on the news the tories/lib dems want to make their expenses part of the FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT but labour have said that was not what was agreed

Email her back and say " a simple yes or no would of done".

Stoday · Post by **Stoday** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:47 pm

The English and spelling are faultless.

IDontBelieveIt · Post by **IDontBelieveIt** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:02 pm

... as is the BS and the lies

but hey this is a democracy.... isn't it? ummmm errrr..... isn't' it..... hello anyone there....

I do wish Our Dear Queen would dissolve Parliament and take control until an election is run before this bunch of tossers bankrupt the nation. She may have to sell the Crown Jewels to Mrs. Obhama for Heaves sake..

Stoday · Post by **Stoday** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:05 pm

IDontBelieveIt wrote: She may have to sell the Crown Jewels to Mrs. Mugabe for Heaves sake..