Europe

[IDontBelieveIt]

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... article.do

So does this mean that when ass-holes like this git bomb us we can claim several £Billion from the so-called Euyroipean Court of Human Rights?

I used to think that being a member of the EU was a good idea, how wrong I was. What with this and our fishermen are not allowed to use our waters but the Spanish can etc. our farmers have to set aside but the French carry on farming and even don't mention the war (John Cleese )

Who are the mugs within the EU? Us

[Inky Pete]

Definitely time to pull out and let them all get on with it.

Even the Irish are becoming Euro-sceptic now that they're net contributors rather than recipients.

Mind you, if Quatada gets two and a half grand off the tax payer maybe he won't be entitled to benefits any more.

[Raf]

human rights was bought in to p!ss us all off. i mean when was it last used in good?


EU was running okay until the expansion eastwards in our vain attempt to minimise Russian influence! it may balance out in the end when they start to prosper.... who knows.

[Inky Pete]

The flaw in all EU legislation is that only we seem to take it at all seriously.

Virtually every other government either ignores the bits which don't suit them - the French take the p**s out of the common agricultural policy, the Spaniards do the same with the common fisheries policy, both of them plus the Italians demand special protection for the names of their produce (champagne, cheeses, hams, olives) so that no-one else can market a competing product, the Germans are still pleading poverty over re-unification, and the eastern european governments won't co-operate in helping our police identify their criminals coming here.

We should pull out, chuck 'em out, and dynamite the tunnel. Stronger trade and political links with the US and the Commonwealth countries would work out far better for us in the long run.

[izalarfin]

Don't dynamite the tunnel until we've frog marched a few million back through it.

[thescruff]

Don't dynamite the tunnel until we've frog marched a few million back through it.

I like the use of Frog

Have my way they would march a few million innit and flood the place before they got the other side.

[Mooncat]

Don't dynamite the tunnel until we've frog marched a few million back through it.

I like the use of Frog

Have my way they would march a few million innit and flood the place before they got the other side.

You mean the "asylum seekers" who are clogging the system, the immigrants who commit crimes but aren't deported, and the troublemakers who can't get away with it in their own countries?

And here's another who should be deported:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... article.do

[izalarfin]

Have my way they would march a few million innit and flood the place before they got the other side.

[scot-canuck]

inky pete: champagne is french and only thing thats stopped is the use of the word champagne, which is why the rest is called cava brut (name of the grape i think) and stuck right beside the champagne.
Not all bad, lots of british produce applying for same protection: Cornish pasties, melton mowbray pork pies (think they are protected now), Arbroath Smokies (also I think protected) and a good few others. So it does work both ways.

Shame so many of us are willing to moan rather than take advantage of the opportunities that present.

Though the italians in parma are taking the p*ss when they won the right to solely slice parma ham in parma region.

[IDontBelieveIt]

Being able to register the name Cornish Pastie, Melton Mowbray pork pies is small compensation for the £B's it costs us to be a member of the club (the UK is a net contributor to the EU, France isn't!), it is small compensation for the gangsters from places like Romania that are 'entitled' to come here and rob us, work for less than the minimum wage undercutting, and kill us.

Not to mention how much it cost England to allow Scotland to have free medicines, free University fees - Ya wee canny Scootsman! Gordon Brown should be deported back to Scotland or we should do to him what wee did to William Wallace

[Inky Pete]

Scot, the champagne process was actually invented in Somerset - not in France at all (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_a ... 834116.ece). The frogs just nicked it, gave the product the name of one of their regions, and have been bleating ever since about how uniquely french their overpriced fizzy wine is.

As you say, the Italians take the p**s by importing ham from all over the place, just slicing it in Parma, and then selling it on for a premium by calling it Parma ham.

If people want to buy this stuff at inflated prices, fine. But they then have a right to know whether they're actually getting what they think they are.

[scot-canuck]

IDBI: It came out of the money already allocated to Scotland, mostly from getting rid of stupid programs that were pointless, also a realisation that getting rid of prescription charges is a vote winner and one that might improve the health of Scotland. (which like Northern England is poor due to years of uninvestment by various governments and especially herr thatcher.

Now it emerges that Westminister for years has been trying to redraw the territorial waters of Scotland to remove any claim to North Sea oilfields...why....fear of independence.

The anti-Scottish campaign in the 'Meeja' doesnt surprise me though, England mostly sees Scotland as a Twee backwater which supplies the cannon fodder for Englands wars (WWI being a case in point: More Scots were killed by percentage, meaning an entire generation of young men were wiped out totally)

[scot-canuck]

Inky Pete: I was referring to the name not the process.

It also bars the Italians in Naples from making Parma ham, (You think Brits are regionally biased....Italy is a country held together by strings and a lot of regional distrust.)

I'd be European by nationality...if the germans are made to run the buses (might ACTUALLY turn up for once) come to think of...there a few things that could do with some Teutonic efficiency such as any local council planning department, my electricity supplier. My union could do with some french influence...spineless turds currently who kow tow to the company line (Why I refuse to have anything to do with them)

Though I would settle for a way of sailing britain 1500 miles south, the extra warmth and sunshine might brighten us all up a bit

[Stoday]

Scot, the champagne process was actually invented in Somerset - not in France at all (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_a ... 834116.ece). The frogs just nicked it, gave the product the name of one of their regions, and have been bleating ever since about how uniquely french their overpriced fizzy wine is.

That artical was written by a complete t*at. You don't need a brain the size of a planet to see that the claim is rubbish.

To seal the bottle so that fermentation can form the bubbles, you have to seal the bottle with a cork. That grows on trees, but the trees grow in France, not England. I've never seen corked English cider bottles. So corking a bottle is French

Then the muddy precipitate (the lees) that form as a result of fermentation have to be shaken down the bottle until they rest on the cork. The cork is whipped off, so the precipitate shoots out and the bottle is resealed (disgorging). The wine is clear. You can't do that with cider. If you want clear cider, you have to filter it. Cider is naturally cloudy. Some Normandy cider is made by the champagne process, but the cider is left with the lees. So the method of clarifying the wine is French.

Champagne is matured in the bottle. It has to be kept cool during this time. The Champagne region is on chalk. To make cellars in which the wine is matured, you only have to tunnel in the chalk. You don't need any drainage, the chalk is self-draining. You don't have the facility to easily make underground cellars in the mud of Somerset. So the maturation is French.

Have you ever tasted wine whilst it's still fermenting? I have. It's gassy because the wine is saturated with the CO2 generated by the fermentation process. That's all that was "invented" by the Somerset cider makers.

[skiking]

Isn't cork from Portugal