Help - Belle 150 Mixer drive belt jumping ?

bilabonic · Post by **bilabonic** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:58 pm

Hi

Started my belle mixer today no problem, put 5 shovels in and it started to make a racket and then tripped.

Removed cover and found belt slipping. If i put light pressure on it to apply tension it (via screwdriver...lol) works fine.

Do the belts stretch on these ? The reason i ask is that i think the motor has moved !!!!

I can see evidence of overheating on the 4 motor mounting bolts that attach to the plastic frame, the frame is slightly melted and looks as if the fixed motor has slipped/moved !!!

Anyone had this or get any thoughts on what i can do ??

Cheers

mikew1972 · Post by **mikew1972** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 9:28 pm

I would expect the motor to be mounted on slots to make it possible to slide it to tighten the belt and to move the 2 pulleys closer togeather to allow the fitting of a new belt. Have the blots that clamp the motor in place simply come a bit loose?

Razor · Post by **Razor** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:50 am

As above make sure the belt is tensioned correctly and the pulleys are clean, if it still slips then a bit of this will do the job. Even halfords sell it!

bilabonic · Post by **bilabonic** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:49 pm

There is definately no adjustment i can see. The belt and pulleys are ribbed with the lower one having no 'lip' so you can slide the belt on/off.

Don't know what to do now, anyone got one to have a look at theirs ?

thescruff · Post by **thescruff** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:06 pm

Can you post a pic showing the parts in question.

Hitch · Post by **Hitch** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:09 pm

If tyhe frame the motor mouts onto has gotten warm, theres a good chance the motor position may have changed slightly- the softened plastic awllowing the drive belt to pull the motor slightly closer, rendering the belt a tiny bit too short....

Id be looking at why the plastic has melted, have you been overloading it, using it contantly for hours on end?

Could be a case of take the motor off, open out the holes slightly, and bolt it back on...

Try and post a pic of ther mountings etc

bilabonic · Post by **bilabonic** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:11 pm

Here are some pics, motor is top, you can see the melting on mounts.

If i put tension on like this with a screwdriver it run fine, you can see how loose it is.

Close up of motor mounts. I have loosened bolts and tried a bar to move the motor but it will not budge....

Post by **ultimatehandyman** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:19 pm

It looks like you might need a new motor housing.

When the four bolts are loosened I can't see why the motor does not move

If you could remove the bolts and move the motor, you could probably make a fixing plate to fit on the front from some plate steel.

Hitch · Post by **Hitch** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:35 pm

Without a doubt, that motor has moved, if its moved down, it ought to move up again.
Remove the bolts and check the holes havnt closed up a bit stopping them going up... try it without the belt on there.

thescruff · Post by **thescruff** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:42 pm

The motor goes up on the left, the right hole/bolt is fixed, so lever from the side not the bottom.

bilabonic · Post by **bilabonic** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:27 pm

thescruff wrote:The motor goes up on the left, the right hole/bolt is fixed, so lever from the side not the bottom.

I you saying this from experience/knowledge or just from viewing the pics.

As i said i have removed all bolts and in no way are the fixing holes elongated in any way for motor adjustment.

Also what can not be seen is the main motor supports which run the entire length, these are also melted and the motor has dropped and stuck fast as far as i can see.

Have you adjusted one before ???

thescruff · Post by **thescruff** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:10 pm

From experience, the top, bottom and left bolt holes are slotted.

The right hand is the pivot point, so all four have to be slackened right off.

bilabonic · Post by **bilabonic** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:32 am

There is no adjustment on this model, gutted. Just removed bolts and read the pdf manual...#

mikew1972 · Post by **mikew1972** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:48 am

OK then, make some - elongate the holes a bit then push the motor up to the top of the slots you made. How deep into wales are you? I'm in cheshire and can do it for you for a bit of beer money if you can't?

bilabonic · Post by **bilabonic** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:32 pm

mikew1972 wrote:OK then, make some - elongate the holes a bit then push the motor up to the top of the slots you made. How deep into wales are you? I'm in cheshire and can do it for you for a bit of beer money if you can't?

Cheers mate. I'm a Sparky so no doubt i can butcher something up. It is not as simple as just elongating the holes as the motor still will not move.

The whole length is is stuck fast/melted. I may just make a tensioner for the belt.

Cheers for help guys, much appreciated. Will let you know how i get on.