Tiling over Ply on stud walls

Denzil · Post by **Denzil** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:40 pm

Hi to everyone,
I am in the process of 'creating' a bathroom/shower upstairs and was about to line the stud walling around shower area with 12mm WBP ply as a base covering. I have spent the last goodness knows how long reading the various opinions relating to this general topic!

Can someone enlighten me? Should I carry on and tank that particular area..burn the ply and use aquapanel..leave the bathroom downstairs?
HELP

Unfortunately this is likely to be the first of many such pleas!

Thank you

DIY_Johnny · Post by **DIY_Johnny** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:33 am

The tilers will be along soon but using Aquapanel is an easy job Denzil.

Its strong heavy stuff. I used 12mm aquapanel and tanked it, fairly straightforward job but I think that was overkill, but you buy a tanking kit so all the bits and bobs come in the one kit, simply to install. and when its done its there for life

But I guess now that you have bought the plywood, you may want to use it. You might just wanna check with the guys that you have the studs in the right centers as 12mm ply can be flexible me thinks

Don't forget you undertile bath/shower sealer thingy. They are in all the stores, usually called Homelux

lamntile · Post by **lamntile** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:38 pm

Do the walls with aquapanel then you have the perfect base for your tiles , also if your tilling the floor again us aquapanel screwing it down onto the joists.

If you are tilling the floor check with the mfr of the shower tray as to what it should be placed on.

tictic · Post by **tictic** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:31 pm

with lamtile on this 12mm aquapanel..wouldnt advise any wbp ply on walls "at all" in wetroom/bathroom.

DIY_Johnny · Post by **DIY_Johnny** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:47 pm

As a matter of interest, whats your thoughts lamintile/tictic on D'n'D aquapanel or fixing to wall.

I think building a frame around to support the aquapanel is a real draw back as it makes the room smaller. A lot of bathrooms as so small that it becomes an issue

Denzil · Post by **Denzil** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:50 pm

Thanks for that, I will have to build something else with the ply!
Since my post I have removed a section of flooring to install a shower deck. Once installed it will be at the same level as the existing t&g flooring. Can I lay homelux or similar and tile or do I have to muck the levels up by laying additional ply?
Nothing is ever simple.....apart from a DIYer with a chainsaw that is!

tictic · Post by **tictic** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:58 pm

NewbieJohn wrote:As a matter of interest, whats your thoughts lamintile/tictic on D'n'D aquapanel or fixing to wall.

I think building a frame around to support the aquapanel is a real draw back as it makes the room smaller. A lot of bathrooms as so small that it becomes an issue

ALWAYS mechincal fixing for aquapanels newbiejohn never dot/dab them u will not have any manufacturers guarantee mate

tictic · Post by **tictic** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:00 pm

Denzil wrote:Thanks for that, I will have to build something else with the ply!
Since my post I have removed a section of flooring to install a shower deck. Once installed it will be at the same level as the existing t&g flooring. Can I lay homelux or similar and tile or do I have to muck the levels up by laying additional ply?
Nothing is ever simple.....apart from a DIYer with a chainsaw that is!

lay 6mm backerboards glued and screwed then tank over it with homelux floor matting.

tictic · Post by **tictic** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:03 pm

tictic wrote:
Denzil wrote:Thanks for that, I will have to build something else with the ply!
Since my post I have removed a section of flooring to install a shower deck. Once installed it will be at the same level as the existing t&g flooring. Can I lay homelux or similar and tile or do I have to muck the levels up by laying additional ply?
Nothing is ever simple.....apart from a DIYer with a chainsaw that is!
lay 6mm backerboards glued and screwed then tank over it with homelux floor matting.

sorry denzil also prime the floor fisrt with either bal apd or sbr proir to 6mm b/boards.

tictic · Post by **tictic** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:16 pm

NewbieJohn wrote:As a matter of interest, whats your thoughts lamintile/tictic on D'n'D aquapanel or fixing to wall.

I think building a frame around to support the aquapanel is a real draw back as it makes the room smaller. A lot of bathrooms as so small that it becomes an issue

also john most b/room are already p/boarded and studded so its just a case of ripping p/b off and reboarding onto exsisting stud work..
or if brick, plastrered walls etc.. stud out, i use 80mm fischers usually onto 2x2.

tictic · Post by **tictic** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:06 pm

tictic wrote:
Denzil wrote:Thanks for that, I will have to build something else with the ply!
Since my post I have removed a section of flooring to install a shower deck. Once installed it will be at the same level as the existing t&g flooring. Can I lay homelux or similar and tile or do I have to muck the levels up by laying additional ply?
Nothing is ever simple.....apart from a DIYer with a chainsaw that is!
lay 6mm backerboards glued and screwed then tank over it with homelux floor matting.

overboard with 6mm b/b..

need 2 reread my own posts ere...

tictic · Post by **tictic** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:10 pm

just in case "someone"jumps down my throat..

only kidding..how u doing the scruff mate..hows that driveway coming on bud

DIY_Johnny · Post by **DIY_Johnny** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:25 am

Regarding aqua panel. For my bathroom I had a real issue with space. Shower tray was just too wide to build a frame. I had solid walls so I d’n’d aquapanel mainly to just get it level (every though the manufactorer said not too!) I swung out of it like a retarded ape. It did stick hard, however given that its supposed to be mechanically fixed I put 60mm fisher fixings in at 300 centers. Tanked (shower area only) it over and tiled Went ok.

I suppose the better way to do it would be to just plaster or render the wall and then tanked but my plastering looks like it belongs in the Tate modern

For my learning what do you think about that way (feel free to be critical!)

tictic · Post by **tictic** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:48 pm

NewbieJohn wrote:Regarding aqua panel. For my bathroom I had a real issue with space. Shower tray was just too wide to build a frame. I had solid walls so I d’n’d aquapanel mainly to just get it level (every though the manufactorer said not too!) I swung out of it like a retarded ape. It did stick hard, however given that its supposed to be mechanically fixed I put 60mm fisher fixings in at 300 centers. Tanked (shower area only) it over and tiled Went ok.

I suppose the better way to do it would be to just plaster or render the wall and then tanked but my plastering looks like it belongs in the Tate modern

For my learning what do you think about that way (feel free to be critical!)

should be ok john

but maybe next time d/dab 12.5mm moisture resistant p/board then tank or brush up on ur plastering skills

DIY_Johnny · Post by **DIY_Johnny** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:07 pm

Cheers tic tic

Plastering really puts me in a bad mood, any time I do it there is a lot of this