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Double Glazing 'Expert'
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:47 pm
by dave.m
House falls on to builder
"We believe he had been removing the lower bay window and the top bay had just collapsed on him."
'A friend helping out a contract company' = ruddy cowboys paying back-handers
No supports? = cowboys.
Re: Double Glazing 'Expert'
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:41 pm
by thescruff
Loads of compo.
Re: Double Glazing 'Expert'
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:58 pm
by speed
how would he be able to claim? its his fault he dont know what he is doing so cant blame anyone???
Re: Double Glazing 'Expert'
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:21 pm
by thescruff
speed wrote:how would he be able to claim? its his fault he dont know what he is doing so cant blame anyone???
He can if he hasn't had proper training from the Company.
Re: Double Glazing 'Expert'
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:09 pm
by ajstone
I was working for a company in Ruislip West London back in the early 80's. The house we were working in was having the bay widows (9 segments) replaced. They had the new downstairs window in and had the upstairs one out when all of a sudden there was an almighty roar followed by dust everywhere
We all came out of the house covered in dust and choking. Despite having accrow props up the bay fell out because it was brick filled timber frame that had been rendered over. The timbers had decayed, the only thing keeping the infill in place was the windows themselves once they were gone the infill went too.
Re: Double Glazing 'Expert'
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:36 pm
by royaloakcarpentry
I was carpentry foreman on a development of luxury apartments years ago where the labourer would alter the scaffold because he had training!!
6 storeys of scaffolding collapsed onto Bishopsgate pmsl. It was on the national news too. I remember it well, I was round my mums and she said that scaffold had collapsed in Bishopsgate. I said, don't worry it will just be ours. It was pmsl.
Re: Double Glazing 'Expert'
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:43 pm
by speed
roc i bet that was a mess
Re: Double Glazing 'Expert'
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:52 pm
by royaloakcarpentry
As it happened I had the day off but knew straight away it was ours. It is a busy road too and so it was lucky that only one vehicle got buried, but the driver was ok.
They should have had a scaffolder on site every day, but instead got one of the labourers to alter it as he had worked for a scaffolding company previously. (probably making tea). They had tied it into the building by coming through the windows and bracing from inside, which fecked me and my lads up for doing window boards and a few other bits. Labourer sorted the problem for us alright pmsl.
Re: Double Glazing 'Expert'
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:12 pm
by joinerjohn
ROC, I remember just such a scenario in Nottingham some years ago. A building being refurbished had the scaffolding tied in through the window openings. Unfortunately, the builders had left so little of the internal structure that one windy night the whole lot collapsed.
Re: Double Glazing 'Expert'
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:05 am
by lockie
I got called to sort out a sliding patio door recently.The door was fitted to an extention and above the door were small non opening windows.For ages im trying to lower the roolers on the door so i could lift it off the track and remove it to access the locking strip.In the end i realised it was very tight at the top and was in fact holding up the roof ! My brother in law was working locally so he popped around to give me a hand (window fitter) and straight away hes f***ing and blinding.They had put a polycarbonate roof on originally but the owner decided to upgrade it to a tiled one.All the weight from the roof was pressing down onto the door.Suprisingly the top non openers hadnt exploded under the weight.Standing down the garden and looking at it the bend in the frame etc was about 50mm , no wonder the door was a bit stiff as the customer had explained.
Customer asks my brother in law for advice and says im not paying to have it all changed !
I refused to work on it as it was so dangerous so left the job.Customer now has no working lock and a roof about to collapse, stupid beyond belief.
My brother inl aw reckons if its left it will push the side walls out as they dont have any supports in them to take the weights of a proper roof.
Been wondering how hes got on with all the snow recently.
Re: Double Glazing 'Expert'
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:31 am
by ultimatehandyman
lockie wrote:I got called to sort out a sliding patio door recently.The door was fitted to an extention and above the door were small non opening windows.For ages im trying to lower the roolers on the door so i could lift it off the track and remove it to access the locking strip.In the end i realised it was very tight at the top and was in fact holding up the roof ! My brother in law was working locally so he popped around to give me a hand (window fitter) and straight away hes f***ing and blinding.They had put a polycarbonate roof on originally but the owner decided to upgrade it to a tiled one.All the weight from the roof was pressing down onto the door.Suprisingly the top non openers hadnt exploded under the weight.Standing down the garden and looking at it the bend in the frame etc was about 50mm , no wonder the door was a bit stiff as the customer had explained.
Customer asks my brother in law for advice and says im not paying to have it all changed !
I refused to work on it as it was so dangerous so left the job.Customer now has no working lock and a roof about to collapse, stupid beyond belief.
My brother inl aw reckons if its left it will push the side walls out as they dont have any supports in them to take the weights of a proper roof.
Been wondering how hes got on with all the snow recently.
I don't blame you for walking away from that one.
Sometimes you just can't tell people though
Re: Double Glazing 'Expert'
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:32 am
by Stoday
lockie wrote: Been wondering how hes got on with all the snow recently.
Even the biggest firms can lose a roof through snow loading
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Re: Double Glazing 'Expert'
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:10 pm
by ultimatehandyman
I love this bit from that article-
Meanwhile, police have been told to keep an eye on rooftops during the cold weather – as a lack of snow and frost could be evidence that the house below contains a cannabis factory.