Drills. Makita, Bosch, B+D or Hitachi

[hotnuts21]

I have just bought my first house and now I am buying all my tools to do the work. Scary stuff. I have been looking around and found a few drills which might suit for a general purpose all round DIY drill.

5 Drills, 4 different makes and all around the same price that I can find. Im leaning towards the makita but not sure how good they are, metal gears though and two batteries!

Would be good to get some feedback on your thoughts about the makers, and drills themselves, or any alternatives you can suggest.

8280DWPE Makita Cordless 14.4v
http://www.powertoolsuk.co.uk/webcat/de ... PE&ID=2116

Bosch PSB24VE2 Combi Drill 24V
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro ... 9&id=41479

Hitachi 18V Combi Drill - Ni-Cd
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=23716#

Black and Decker 18v Cordless Hammer Drill
http://www.focusdiy.co.uk/invt/195773

Black and Decker 18v Combi Drill KC181FK
http://www.sitebox.ltd.uk/proddetail-KC ... 181fk.html

Thanks in anticipation
Paul M

[big-all]

heeeeelllooo and welcome hotnuts21



on your budget i would go for ryobi one+18v

you basicly buy the batteries with a basic kit go for the frequent specials

where you get a hammer drill and other tool for a ton and build up your collection of 18v tools there are around 20 to be found in the collection
http://www.screwfix.com/search.do?_dync ... &x=10&y=11

i rate ryobi as diy light to medium trade they will do 80 to 90% of what the equivilent bosch or dewalt will do at a fraction of the price

[Hitch]

I assume your budget is approx £100 then?

Looking at the battery specs, the Hitachi wins.

The ah rating, incase you dont know, is amp/hour, effecivly, the hitachi 1.4ah batteries will let you draw more power in the hour than the 1.3ah Makita ones.

Both the Makita and Hitachi are good machines, Hitachi has the power advantage, as well as the larger chuck.

Although 1.4ah Nicads are a little low powered for heavy useage, it does however come with a 30 min charger. as opposed to 1hr. And for less than £100, thats pretty good imo!

Not sure about availability of replacment batts for the B&D ones if you ever need them.

The bosch, not had much experience of the green stuff, (green cases is DIY quality, blue cases is industrial) but it is built for a diy market.

Most of my power stuff is Hitachi, and never had a problem with any of it.



Another one to throw into the pot is RYOBI, if you plan on buying a lot of powertools, look at the One+ range. Many machines and use ethe same batteries.

[big-all]

yep i agree with hitch the only one i like the look if is the hitachi

both the bxd i suspect are 1 battery although they dont say on one they also dont mention the a.h

[stevemastic]

Two other small points, if your not used to holding a power tool 24/7.Weight of the complete package ( battery & drill) may be a factor you cannot drill straight with a knackered wrist & pop into a few sheds & get a feel for the pistol grip & blance of the tool they are all very different

[Only-Me]

I got a Makita twin pack.

14v drill driver........and 14v impact driver

Although good to use............the batteries are fading quickly.

Is it usually the batteries that go or the charger that plays up?.

They have'nt had a load of abuse.........but if the batteries keep playing about.......they will have

[jason123]

My first drill was a B+D, still use it for the odd masonry job, its corded still going strong and 20 years old. Do you absolutely have to have cordless. For 100 notes you could have a very good SDS drill with roto stop so you can chisel too. Get the chuck adapter and you can put any drill bit in it.

In my opinion, cordless tools should only be used where absolutely necessary, ie poor access or no power available, for years now I see tradesmen turn up ready to go, first thing they ask is where they can charge their batterys, which amounts to the same thing as wheres the power.

[tim'll fix it]

B&Q have an offer on two 12V dewalt drills at the moment for just over a ton

whilst I wouldnt wish a dewalt drill on anyone its a good start

I agree with jason mind, for your budget a battery drill wont be powerful enough for some tasks, I would go out a buy a corded drill

[hotnuts21]

Thanks for all the advice guys, not sure if it has helped or made it more complicated :)

Looking at all the options, budget use and future needs the Ryobi seems to have a good rating and is fairly priced. It also has the higher 1.7ah 18v batteries which I think is a good thing.

Only problem now is choosing which one to buy :)

This drill looks very nice
Ryobi One+ CDI-1803M
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro ... 8&ts=60548

But I would need to buy the batteries (and I want two), charger and case, which soon sends it well over 100.

However there are two kits which seem quite good.
The Ryobi One + CDI-1801M/BG
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro ... 6&ts=60548

The drill does not seem as good as the one above, but similar to the Makita I originally liked.

However this next offer is I believe the same Drill CDI-1801M (EDIT: actually it appears to be the 1802m) but also includes the angle driver and is on special for 20 quid less.
Ryobi One + CCK-18/2-001 18V Twinpack
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro ... 1&ts=60858

So the Twinpack seems like a great offer for the money. Unless anyone notices anything that I have missed, the info on the screwfix site is not that clear.

What do you think? Good choice for £99 ?

[Fats]

Hi Hotnuts (How gay does that sound)

I have the twin pack with the angle drill very good peice of kit for the price, and the angle drill does come in handy for tight/small places you just cant get with a ordinary drill/driver as you will no doubt find out sooner or later, i was very inpressed with the battery life also.

If its definatly cordless you want id go for the ryobi 0ne+ system, and especially because i only paid £65 for my kit on offer from B&Q.

[hotnuts21]

Ordered my Kit from Sfx and its arrived, cant wait to wreck the house now :)