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Boxing in for tiling after central heating

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:54 pm
by hate-diy
Hi all,

Hopefully I can get some advide on what is probably a simple job for a pro but I'm just stumped.

OK what it is we have recently had central heating fitted and need to box som pipes in in the bathroom and tile them. The walls seem knackered and so uneven its unbeleivable. My first idea was just to screw two batons and then add plasterboard and tile on top of it but the wall at the bottom protrudes more than the top so if I screwed them to it it wouldn't be level. So wahts the best option? Trying to level it out at the top and then add them or add them not straight and compensate somehow when putting the tiles on. I have attached a photo as to my initial thoughts and to illustrate better hopefully my issue. The arrows indicate the places where would leave the baton uneven if I screwed there which was my inital idea.

Thanks
J

Re: Boxing in for tiling after central heating

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:07 pm
by thescruff
Quality plumbing :lol:


What are the pipes for.

Could do with a few more clips, and lagging.

Re: Boxing in for tiling after central heating

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:10 pm
by hate-diy
They are just water paipes going up to the loft where the boiler is for the central heating

Re: Boxing in for tiling after central heating

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:12 pm
by thescruff
Whats the copper pipe for, and is it big enough.

Re: Boxing in for tiling after central heating

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:16 pm
by hate-diy
Oh sorry I presume thats the gas - sorry if I sound like a muppet lol but I dont do DIY Im strictly computers lol. I know the best idea is to get the pros in I just wanted to have a go myself rather than just paying someone to do it - thats the easy way out.

Re: Boxing in for tiling after central heating

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:20 pm
by thescruff
Lots of regs with gas.

What boiler is it, and roughly how long is the pipe.

It also needs more brackets.

Re: Boxing in for tiling after central heating

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:32 pm
by royaloakcarpentry
Easiest way for the boxing is to make up a carcass out of 2X2 and then fix it to the wall. Pack it out as necessary for plumb.

You need the front of it to have an access panel incorporated so you have access to the joints on the grey plastic pipes in case they start to leak.

Re: Boxing in for tiling after central heating

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:40 pm
by Colour Republic
I think Scruff is getting at the boxing may need venting as it contains a gas pipe

Re: Boxing in for tiling after central heating

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:48 pm
by hate-diy
I think Scruff is getting at the boxing may need venting as it contains a gas pipe
Oh sorry. Probably time to get the pros in. The reason I thought it would be easy enough was becasue the pipes were/are currently boxed below as there was a multipoint there originally so I thought Id just be able to continue this up to the ceiling.

Re: Boxing in for tiling after central heating

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:55 pm
by thescruff
I prefer you answer the last question as it looks undersized.

Re: Boxing in for tiling after central heating

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:20 am
by Colour Republic
you're so grumpy :lol:

Re: Boxing in for tiling after central heating

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:21 am
by hate-diy
The boiler is almost directly above that room in the loft and the boiler is main combi eco - well thats what it says on it.

Re: Boxing in for tiling after central heating

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:47 am
by thescruff
Colour Republic wrote:you're so grumpy :lol:
I like to keep my readers safe. :thumbright:

You need extra brackets on the pipes, plus lagging on them all except the gas, and the boxing needs to be vented top and bottom.

Re: Boxing in for tiling after central heating

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:01 am
by hate-diy
whats the best way to vent them? Do you have any advice on the continuation of the boxing in at all? Id rather ask now while theres some expertise available.

Thanks

Re: Boxing in for tiling after central heating

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:37 am
by thescruff
Royaloakcarpentry's post is the best way to box it in.

A small vent at floor level, the top should vent into the loft if you don't fill in around the pipes so wouldn't be a problem.

If the boxing continues on down the vent can be at low level on the next floor.

Brackets and lagging are the most important or the pipes are going to shack rattle and roll (water hammer) every time you open and close a tap.