Howdens corner unit problem with worktop finish

Questions about fitting kitchens in here please

Moderator: Moderators

Locked
bandai1972
Newly registered Member
Posts: 4
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:57 pm
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Howdens corner unit problem with worktop finish

Post by bandai1972 »

Hi there, I wonder if you can help, this may be fine but just wasn't quite expecting the worktop to look like this once it was installed, think I was expecting it to look like it does in the Howdens catalogue and worried that this isn't quite right.

Basically we ordered our kitchen with Howdens and went for a corner unit to end the run of cupboards as it looked modern and thought it would compliment the kitchen. We were asked which worktop we wanted and went to have a look with the Howdens man and picked a bullnose curved laminate one. To cut a long story short, the carpenter has fitted the worktop today but had to cut the laminate and then has attached the edging strip on and has had to blend it in with the other bit of worktop creating this join which to me sticks out a lot and like I said isn't what we were expecting.

Is this normal to have this? Or could it be done a different way? Thanks in advance!
Attachments
worktop.jpg
worktop.jpg (23.02 KiB) Viewed 20139 times
worktop.jpg
worktop.jpg (23.02 KiB) Viewed 20139 times
speed
Senior Member
Posts: 2594
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:26 pm
Location: barnsley
Has thanked: 35 times
Been thanked: 257 times

Re: Howdens corner unit problem with worktop finish

Post by speed »

hard to tell from the pics is the edging flush or stepped on the join?
User avatar
big-all
Pro Carpenter
Posts: 23610
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:11 pm
Location: redhill surrey an auld reekie laddie
Has thanked: 736 times
Been thanked: 2341 times

Re: Howdens corner unit problem with worktop finish

Post by big-all »

i would have it with the arc finishing about an inch in front off where its so you have a bit more seperation
when you transfer from the bull nose to the curve
we are all ------------------still learning
royaloakcarpentry
Senior Member
Posts: 6620
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:48 pm
Location: Essex
Has thanked: 39 times
Been thanked: 621 times

Re: Howdens corner unit problem with worktop finish

Post by royaloakcarpentry »

That is NO carpenter that did that. Kitchen basher at best. That is horrendously finished by an incompetent sausage fingered buffoon!

The laminate strip has to be cut to the profile left by the router and let into the worktop slightly. Piece of piddle for any qualified experienced carpenter/joiner to do.

Just done one on a breakfast bar where the curve comes from the wall to the front. Haven't got any pics of it yet as I won't do any silicone work until the client has decorated and thus the kitchen is finished. Shame, as I could have whacked it on here for you to see how it should be done.

I shall check my camera to doubly make sure I didn't take any pics. Was a few weeks ago when I finished for them to decorate and so my memory (at 44) could be letting me down (yet again).

I will check now, while I remember pmsl

Actually that looks like a square edge top. He could have just squared off the laminate and run the strip up to it, instead of leaving the profile which the router has left.
bandai1972
Newly registered Member
Posts: 4
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:57 pm
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Howdens corner unit problem with worktop finish

Post by bandai1972 »

Thanks everyone your advise is so much appreciated.

Should we just say thanks but we are not happy with the finish and get someone else?
bandai1972
Newly registered Member
Posts: 4
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:57 pm
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Howdens corner unit problem with worktop finish

Post by bandai1972 »

Hi Just been looking at the howdens quote and we have got 38 mm bullnose rad smoke worktop with 1.4 mm edging strip??
fin
Senior Member
Posts: 8723
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:49 pm
Location: south tyneside
Has thanked: 32 times
Been thanked: 807 times

Re: Howdens corner unit problem with worktop finish

Post by fin »

ive taken a picture of the corner of the breakfast bar in my kitchen. i fitted it about 5 years back. its obv a different radius but will hopefully give you some idea as to what it should look like.... if it doesnt its because the lens on my phones camera is scratched to buggery lol...

Image
bandai1972
Newly registered Member
Posts: 4
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:57 pm
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: Howdens corner unit problem with worktop finish

Post by bandai1972 »

Hi thanks for that Fin, that really helps, it definitely isn't right and we are going to get someone else to do it as the other guy said that is the best he can do, thankyou
User avatar
Job and Knock
Old School Chippie
Posts: 6667
Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:27 pm
Has thanked: 742 times
Been thanked: 1573 times

Re: Howdens corner unit problem with worktop finish

Post by Job and Knock »

That's a curved end unit, so I don't think the Howdens guy wasn't really correct when he specified a post-formed edge worktop. I also feel that the fitter was wrong to do it that way. As Howdens worktops are generally a bit wider than the norm (616 or 625mm from memory, can't remember which) I'd have sawn/routed off the bullnose edge making it a square edge and applied edging strip(s) along the front and round the returm to the wall. The only downside to doing it that way is that the edging strips are often only 2.4 or 3 metres long so there may need to be a visible vertical joint at the front and you also lose about 8 to 10mm off the depth of the finished worktop.

Just my 2p worth!
"The person who never made a mistake, never made anything" - Albert Einstein

"I too will something make, And joy in the making" - Robert Bridges, 1844~1930

"The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell from The Triumph of Stupidity", 1933
darrenba
Senior Member
Posts: 2941
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:02 am
Location: Dorset
Has thanked: 104 times
Been thanked: 490 times

Re: Howdens corner unit problem with worktop finish

Post by darrenba »

It's a lot easier with solid wood worktop :lol:

Image
chip32
Newly registered Member
Posts: 9
Joined: Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:37 pm
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 0

Re: Howdens corner unit problem with worktop finish

Post by chip32 »

ill stick up for your joiner, matching in edging strip on a corner radius like that is impossible to do. even the instruction manual on my trend worktop jig states this:

http://www.trend-uk.com/en/UK/trend/con ... BkZg%3D%3D

Page 17

If im doing a corner radius i tend to just use the masons profile (which is what Fin's photo looks like) it hits the post formed edge at more of an angle so easier to file down your edging strip. This however would not work on yours as you want it to follow curve of the unit.

My advise would be get a plastic surgeon to take a look, be advised though they are expensive
royaloakcarpentry
Senior Member
Posts: 6620
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:48 pm
Location: Essex
Has thanked: 39 times
Been thanked: 621 times

Re: Howdens corner unit problem with worktop finish

Post by royaloakcarpentry »

Took pics, now the client has decorated, of the one which I did a few weeks back.

As Chip32 says, they are not ideal worktops to be doing this detailing to but it can be done. I wouldn't advise it but if the client wants the client wants lol.
Attachments
Image0317.jpg
Image0317.jpg (61.26 KiB) Viewed 19918 times
Image0316.jpg
Image0316.jpg (50.83 KiB) Viewed 19918 times
Locked

Return to “Kitchen Fitting”