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Used some 3" turbogolds today to join together two 6"x2" joists. Used an impact driver to drive them in and I must have snapped at least 50% of them ::b - for me they were rubbish :roll:

Should I have been using drill/driver to drive them in :scratch: I tried a combination of slow and fast to drive them in and it didn't matter ::b

I only wanted to drive in 2 screws but in this example I used 7 screws :oops:
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Two of the heads that you can see spin freely so I assume they have snapped as well.

It may be may application of these so if I'm mis-using them please let me know but, and I know these have been recommended by the site, for me they were quite poor. If I ever do something like this again I will try spax.
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Hmmmmm,,

They are not turbogolds-


they are turbogold ultra and are made from stainless and you are right they do shear off and that is why you need to drill a pilot hole first :wink:

Turbogold screws are ultimate handyman approved and will not snap like the turbogold ultras.

That is one reason why the turbogold ultras are not UHM approved :wink:
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Turbogolds are good although Spax are very very good.

The give-away ski is in the name Turbogold :lol:
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I just cant understand why people try and push a screw in without piloting a hole first not only will it pull the joint together tighter but will also help countersink the head :scratch: one other point screws and nails dont like knots (sorry not aimed at you skiking)
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Tryanything wrote:I just cant understand why people try and push a screw in without piloting a hole first not only will it pull the joint together tighter but will also help countersink the head :scratch: one other point screws and nails dont like knots (sorry not aimed at you skiking)
I never drill a pilot hole and that's why I use turbogolds. I tried the turbogold ultras and they went in ok, but a few weeks later when I tried to remove them all the heads sheared off ::b

Then I was told that a pilot hole was necessary!

Screwfix should mention this when selling the turbogold ultra's. Perhaps they do now but I am sure they never used to!
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i would'nt worry if the head comes off when the screw is full home
providing you have threads on both halves they will hold

if it hasnt fully driven home when the head comes off tighten the drill chuck around the thread and on the slowest speed remove the screw
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Have to admit I didn't suss the differenece as I must have miss read them - could have sworn they said were turbogold ultra's instead of just turbo ultra's - I think a subtle play on words by sfx to imply the same quality across the turbo range. Note to self, read properly :oops:

I couldn't pilot as I didn't have the distance between joists to get the drill in - I could only just get the impact driver in.

The normal turbogolds (as approved by UHM) are internal screws but the turbo ultras are external screws altho' the joists are not exposed to the elements - or at least I hope not - I erred on the side of caution.
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i would'nt worry if the head comes off when the screw is full home
providing you have threads on both halves they will hold

if it hasnt fully driven home when the head comes off tighten the drill chuck around the thread and on the slowest speed remove the screw
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skiking wrote:Have to admit I didn't suss the differenece as I must have miss read them - could have sworn they said were turbogold ultra's instead of just turbo ultra's - I think a subtle play on words by sfx to imply the same quality across the turbo range.
and you would expect the 'ULTRA' version to add features, not take them away :shock:
(is that too much of an IT-based thought process :scratch: )
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I always call them turbogold ultra's instead of turbo ultra's ::b

I'm sure that when screwfix first introduced these they said that "these are just like a turbogold woodscrew- but in stainless".
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I had a lot of ultras snap when they first came out ::b ::b Then hey presto it says about a pilot hole in the small print!!!
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So the thing to do in Skikings situation - where a pilot was not possible, is to use the TurboGold to fix, then remove and replace with the Turbo Ultra - like using a steel screw before a brass one :thumbright:
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I thought that one of the advantages of using an impact driver is that it cuts down the need to use a pilot hole :scratch:
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why didnt you just pre drill the 2 holes in the short lengh of timber, then you could have put the screws in 5cm leaving more room for the drill :lol:
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