Surface mounted worktop joining bolts

Questions about fitting kitchens in here please

Moderator: Moderators

timothy.e.doran
Newly registered Member
Posts: 13
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:44 am
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 1 time

Surface mounted worktop joining bolts

Post by timothy.e.doran »

Has anyone used this type of fitting to join worktops. I dont have ready access to a router so these might be suitable as they mount on the surface of the worktop.
hafele.gif
hafele.gif (23.39 KiB) Viewed 9987 times
Link removed, image attached. Mod 2.

Many thanks

Tim
User avatar
ayjay
Senior Member
Posts: 9891
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:51 pm
Has thanked: 458 times
Been thanked: 1708 times

Re: Surface mounted worktop joining bolts

Post by ayjay »

I've not used them; they should do the job so long as you have the clearance underneath..................... but if you don't have access to a router, what sort of joint are we talking about?
One day it will all be firewood.
speed
Senior Member
Posts: 2594
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:26 pm
Location: barnsley
Has thanked: 35 times
Been thanked: 257 times

Re: Surface mounted worktop joining bolts

Post by speed »

never used them but if you donr over tighten it may be ok,

if you are doing mitred joints you will need a router anyway :scratch:
royaloakcarpentry
Senior Member
Posts: 6620
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:48 pm
Location: Essex
Has thanked: 39 times
Been thanked: 621 times

Re: Surface mounted worktop joining bolts

Post by royaloakcarpentry »

You don't need a router for a masons mitre..........they can be done by hand.

you don't need any form of joining bolts either lol.
User avatar
big-all
Pro Carpenter
Posts: 23615
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:11 pm
Location: redhill surrey an auld reekie laddie
Has thanked: 736 times
Been thanked: 2342 times

Re: Surface mounted worktop joining bolts

Post by big-all »

the trouble will be you cannot tighten them enough otherwise they will turn into a hinge
any swelling will cause the top to lift and allow greater water ingress
we are all ------------------still learning
fin
Senior Member
Posts: 8723
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:49 pm
Location: south tyneside
Has thanked: 32 times
Been thanked: 807 times

Re: Surface mounted worktop joining bolts

Post by fin »

ive seen a bloke do one with a hand saw before. and it was very good. however cant beat one done with a router. especially when they go bang on perfect.
royaloakcarpentry
Senior Member
Posts: 6620
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:48 pm
Location: Essex
Has thanked: 39 times
Been thanked: 621 times

Re: Surface mounted worktop joining bolts

Post by royaloakcarpentry »

glad you have seen it done, Fin. Sometimes when I put tasks down that I can do by hand and can be done by hand, I think people must think I am making it up lol.

Easier with a router, agreed on that.
moderator6
UHM Super Moderator
Posts: 2845
Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:43 pm
Has thanked: 141 times
Been thanked: 362 times

Re: Surface mounted worktop joining bolts

Post by moderator6 »

Handsaw? Luxury.


We used to cut them with a rusty bread knife in't middle of the road :lol:
I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work
fin
Senior Member
Posts: 8723
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:49 pm
Location: south tyneside
Has thanked: 32 times
Been thanked: 807 times

Re: Surface mounted worktop joining bolts

Post by fin »

id imagine its not that difficult. it was years ago when i saw it done. like 16 or 17 i must have been.

brand new saw and acurate marking. i was impressed though as i didnt realise they could be cut by hand

since i have the stuff to do em. router and the big boy trend jig i might aswell make use of them. that and ive not tried to do one myself by hand haha
timothy.e.doran
Newly registered Member
Posts: 13
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:44 am
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Surface mounted worktop joining bolts

Post by timothy.e.doran »

I shall be using a solid wood worktop with butt joints so I should be able to get away without a router.
big-all wrote:the trouble will be you cannot tighten them enough otherwise they will turn into a hinge
any swelling will cause the top to lift and allow greater water ingress
Yes I was a bit worried that they might do that.
User avatar
big-all
Pro Carpenter
Posts: 23615
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:11 pm
Location: redhill surrey an auld reekie laddie
Has thanked: 736 times
Been thanked: 2342 times

Re: Surface mounted worktop joining bolts

Post by big-all »

you might be able use them to pull it together and maybe 2 or 3 2x1" [21x43mm]planed batons screwed underneath about 150-300mm each side off the join to hold flat
we are all ------------------still learning
timothy.e.doran
Newly registered Member
Posts: 13
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:44 am
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Surface mounted worktop joining bolts

Post by timothy.e.doran »

big-all wrote:you might be able use them to pull it together and maybe 2 or 3 2x1" [21x43mm]planed batons screwed underneath about 150-300mm each side off the join to hold flat
Ok that sounds like a good idea.

I realise that a router would be the best method but thank your for supporting me with alternative ideas.
User avatar
Pooneil
Senior Member
Posts: 655
Joined: Mon May 23, 2011 8:21 pm
Has thanked: 25 times
Been thanked: 36 times

Re: Surface mounted worktop joining bolts

Post by Pooneil »

speed wrote:if you are doing mitred joints you will need a router anyway :scratch:
Might be a straight joint... but not sure about those fixings anyway.

You can certainly fit inset joiners by hand, just need a drill, spade bit and a chisel.
When I heard they'd discovered a cure for dyslexia it was like music to my arse!
timothy.e.doran
Newly registered Member
Posts: 13
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:44 am
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Surface mounted worktop joining bolts

Post by timothy.e.doran »

Pooneil wrote:
speed wrote:if you are doing mitred joints you will need a router anyway :scratch:
Might be a straight joint... but not sure about those fixings anyway.

You can certainly fit inset joiners by hand, just need a drill, spade bit and a chisel.
I had not thought about that. It would be possible but a bit slow maybe. I could also buy a router without needing to also buy a jig and route it free hand?
User avatar
Pooneil
Senior Member
Posts: 655
Joined: Mon May 23, 2011 8:21 pm
Has thanked: 25 times
Been thanked: 36 times

Re: Surface mounted worktop joining bolts

Post by Pooneil »

I wouldn't recommend routing free hand... not unless you really know what you're doing.

A wide enough spade bit for the 'head' of the clamp, a series of holes for the bolt and then a quick tidy up with a chisel. Shouldn't take too long.
When I heard they'd discovered a cure for dyslexia it was like music to my arse!
Locked

Return to “Kitchen Fitting”