Floor Repair, Does This Sound Right?

[banksy]

hi all, i would like your advice on a repair job that my council intends doing to my kitchen/lounge floor following damage that was caused by a repair to the tap in my kitchen which leaked, resulting in the blistering and cracking of the old Marley floor tiles and also tiles which i laid on top some years ago. the whole area is now a mess, with the floor covered in a load of pot holes and blisters, even the tiles that look OK have become loose from the floor due to the water damage. What the council plan in doing is to apply ET-150, which is an asbestos encapsulate, over the old severely cracked and blistered floor, then lay a new floor over the
ET-150... now, I'm no flooring expert, but this sounds absolute nonsense to me, instead of applying ET-150 on the damaged floor then laying a new floor over it which would be a waste of time. wouldn't it be more appropriate and also easier to just lift all the old tiles in the kitchen/lounge, then put the new floor over it? . i would do this myself, but seeing its the council that caused the bloody mess in the first place, it should only be right that they do the job. this is looking like it's going to be another botched job just like the very one that landed me in this sate in the first place. I don't have any other photos at hand at this time to show all the damage on the floor, so this will have to do.
I appreciate your help.

[royaloakcarpentry]

How are they taking the ceramics up but leaving the marley's intact?

[banksy]

How are they taking the ceramics up but leaving the marley's intact?

from what i've been told, they will not take any tiles up they will cover the floor as it is now with the ET-150. sounds mad but true.

[Wes]

ET-150's isn't just an asbestos encapsulate http://www.bostik-amer.com/products/et-150-af ...I assume there going to run a self levelling on top? Can you not ask them if you can lift the tiles?

[banksy]

I assume there going to run a self levelling on top? Can you not ask them if you can lift the tiles?

this is taken from a letter that i received today. "the council use a product called ET-150 to seal the floor that contain low risk asbestos which Marley tiles come under. they recommend that the floor is treated and left overnight for the product to dry and then new flooring is placed on top". no mention of a self levelling, so does ET-150 act as one? , if so what good will it be if you don't completely remove the damaged floor?. when i phoned there office to tell them about the damage they have done to my floor, i said "that i have had to lift some tiles up because of them becoming a trip hazard", there response was something like " YOU ARE NOT TO TOUCH THE TILES, LEAVE THEM ALONE!" over the top i know, but thats what I'm dealing with here. ET-150 Application "Surfaces should be free from any loose materials" nearly the whole floor is loose so how can this stuff be any good for me?.

[Wes]

If it's all loose, it needs to come up really. ET-150 is a type of liquid membrane. It's only applied to 0.5 mm thickness, so I'd say a SLC would have to be used, unless they plan on tiling over it. Although any sub-floor movement would crack both tiles or SLC.

The council are liable and would tell you to leave it all alone. Plus as far as there concerned, you may cost them more money by getting stuck in. So best wait and argue to toss.

[royaloakcarpentry]

You can lift the marley tiles, no problem, if they stay intact.

Hence why they want to seal it in.

I would imagine they are responsible for the marley tiles and not your cerammic tiles. If you work for a living they will be responsible for even less, but that is another story lol.

Good luck with it, they will fob you off no doubt about it.

[banksy]

If it's all loose, it needs to come up really. ET-150 is a type of liquid membrane. It's only applied to 0.5 mm thickness, so I'd say a SLC would have to be used, unless they plan on tiling over it. Although any sub-floor movement would crack both tiles or SLC.

this is more or less what i told them and all i got in response was something like 'don't tell us are job mate' while giving me a look as if there mother had just crawled out my nose. i will wait until they turn up to do the job, then write back with the results, being that its has been 3 months now waiting for them just to decide what to do with this big job i shouldn't expect to be back here soon. thanks for all the replies.

[royaloakcarpentry]

3 months....keep waiting sunshine lol

Over 2 years I have been waiting for the useless bunch of james hunts to fix the walkway above our front bedroom to stop the water piddling in when it rains.

Been told that they haven't got roofers that can do built up asphalt work....had a surveyor round, then nothing....spoken to council, then nothing. Not that it matters, the wife only had Plurasy 4 times last year and already once this year. Bunch of useless twits.