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hi i am going to build my first computer after having used commercial brands PC for more than 15 years
i could use computer pretty well but I don't have that much experience and knowlegde on hardwares.
I think therre are lots of things to learn before starting to build my own PC.

I've been doing research on web and watching tutorial videos on youtube for some time , I think i know a
lot of things already but i think there are much more things i don't know as i learn more. ok, i think i should
ask my question but i hope guys you can also tell me anything else in addition to what i ask.

first of all, motherboard, it's not a difficult stuff because i think i'll pick an economic one from Asus , Asus P8B75-M LX Plus (any other better recommendation?) power supply i am interested is Antec Eco 400w because i don't need a graphic card. RAM, I don't know. I'll keep my intel CPU Core i5 2400. Harddrive, Seagate or Western Digital? (I dpn't have lots of things to store, 500GB is sufficient but i think 1TB is only a 10 bucks more here, if WD, those blue, green ,red, black? what to choose? or should i pick Seagate to avoid all that 'colour' stuff)

I think i should ask about RAM. Do I have to check if my CPU supports the RAM? I know motherboard relates to CPU and RAM. If the socket of motherboard for CPU is correct, the CPU could be plugged into, and RAM as well.
i.e.
Motherboard has to be compatible with CPU
Motherboard has to be compatible with RAM

but ... do i have to consider if the CPU is compatible with RAM?

As for compatibility i have risen another concern - The power supply unit.
How to know if the power supply could be compatible with the motherboard?

Thanks

Anything else I should pay attention to when choosing hardwares and installing them to the PC?

Is cable management important?
Will small case give big problem on heat and air ventilation?

Thanks
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As I read your post I'm get the impression you still have a lot to learn before you start to build your first computer, I'm not meaning to be insulting but I can tell that you still have a lot to learn, therefore can I suggest that actually you put tour new system build on hold temporarily, as you don't need a particularly high spec system can I suggest you buy as cheap 2nd hand system from a car boot and practice stripping it down and rebuilding, also get to know the different hard wares..... ide/sata, PCI/agp, 20/24pin etc I think if you take the plunge to take on this project ATM you may be throwing away good money.... Again that's your choice of coarse just want to help also where about so you live? If it's anywhere near Bolton then there's s warehouse for cheap parts and they give excellent advice to, called scan near the Reebok stadium they will confirm compatabillity between your hardware when you do actually decide to take the plunge to build a compete system.

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To add:
nothing wrong with building your own PC, but do you realise when you switch it on, nothing much will happen as you also need to buy an operating system. You do not mention one or an optical drive.

I guess you are in America?
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someone-else wrote:To add:
nothing wrong with building your own PC, but do you realise when you switch it on, nothing much will happen as you also need to buy an operating system. You do not mention one or an optical drive.

I guess you are in America?
Hi,
I have an OEM Windows 7 Home Premium disc and I will call Microsoft about reactivation on new motherboard.
Secondly, I have an optical drive already and do not need a new one.

Finally, i am not in the states and have never been to America before.


Now my biggest headache is what model of RAM to use
Motherboard: Asus P8B75-M LX PLUS
CPU: Core i5 2400
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Use whatever type of RAM the motherboard is designed to take.
Here's a link to the ASUS website (specifically the mobo you want to use) Full info on the motherboard is on this page.
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8B75M ... ifications
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joinerjohn wrote:Use whatever type of RAM the motherboard is designed to take.
Here's a link to the ASUS website (specifically the mobo you want to use) Full info on the motherboard is on this page.
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8B75M ... ifications
i know it is a must to use DDR3 type
but my question was.. how about those numerial details?? 1066 1333 1666...........PC3...
do i have to take care of those things or simply ignore them and buy the RAM as long as they are DDR3 type
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It is unlikely you'll be able to activate and OEM copy of windows with a new motherboard, OEM licensing doesn't allow such upgrades.
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chenjun wrote:
someone-else wrote:

I have an OEM Windows 7 Home Premium disc and I will call Microsoft about reactivation on new motherboard.
Secondly, I have an optical drive already and do not need a new one.
OEM licensing only allows you limited changes a completely new PC wont be allowed..you can change your motherboard provided they consider it like for like......so I would budget for a new OS as well...mayby £50-80....
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DDR3 RAM is all the same pinout etc, where it differs is the frequency of the RAM and you'll pay more for faster chips, you will find it easier to overclock the memory with better quality components. If you don't know what o/c is, you probably don't need to know.

Looking at the spec of your motherboard, just get whatever your budget can afford. Unless you're really into gaming or love benchmarking, go with something mid-range. Buy cheap / buy twice as they say.

"2 x DIMM, Max. 16GB, DDR3 2200(O.C.)/2000(O.C.)/1800(O.C.)/1600/1333/1066 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory"

It's also unlikely you'll need more than 8GB in the next five years, but I'd personally get a board that supports 4 DIMMs, just for future-proofing.

I'd always check www.pcpro.co.uk "A-list" to get advice on the latest/greatest components.

Finally, see if you can pick up a copy of Custom PC - it's a bit overkill for your needs but it's a good enthusiast magazine.
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Hey, always fun teaching somebody how a PC works.

I've built countless PC's for myself and a few family/friends/privates.

First question is, what do you need the PC for?

The CPU you've specified is a 3.6ghz quad core.... which is more than required for your general day to day machine.

Majority of applications only use 2 cores, and even then, the cores only run at around half power!

If you're going for a general use machine, spend no more than £500 including your OS.

For light-medium gaming, generic CAD work etc, I'd go for around the £800 mark

and for CPU/memory intensive programs, be looking at around £1100 + dependant on the requirements.

If you can let us know exactly what you're looking for in a PC, I can help you out no problem :)

Cheers!

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This is a good deal.
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All for 400 quid.

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