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this happened before xmas, but i havent had chance to post it, it make me sick to think about it,

a soilder in our area was killed in iraq by a roadside bomb, he left behide a wife to be, and two kids, they had the funeral for him in the church on stockton high street, which is our local town, there was that meny people there the police had to come out to help with the traffic, it shut the roads at that end of the high street for 40 minutes, so the buses were running late, of which my girlfriend was on one, when it finally got into town a bloke got on, and started to complain to the buses driver about them beeing late, my girlfriend told him a soilder has had a funeral, to which he responsed,

'and its not my problem, they know what they get them selfs into before they go out there, if it was me driving i would of just lent on the horn till they got out of the way!'

my girlfriend brother is out in iraq at the moment, my girlfriend is the type of women that wont take any crap of any one, even if the bloke is twice her size, she goes nuts with me if i try to get involved, she wont hold back if she's got some thing to say to someone, but she was totally gobsmacked to the point where she was speachless, by the time it sunk in what this bloke said he got of the bus, it makes my blood boil just to think about it, he was so lucky i was on the bus cos i think i would of layed he out!

the soilders dont ask to go out there, there only following orders, they wouldnt want to go to war if they had the choice, its the goverment that sends them out there yet the soilders get the grief for it, i cant believe how some people think and how stupid they are! her brother was telling me before he went out they told him they didnt have enough bullet proof vest to go around, so he made clear he was going any where with out one, and when one of his mates dies out there is seems straight way your getting his kit, why is it that people cant just support them and give them the respect they diserve.

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what can you say?, it makes my blood boil just thinking about it :angryfire:
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Sounds about right for the mindles, Argos shopping chav that seem to be taking over the country.
I've nothing against any one haveing a protest about it, but why do they insist on taking it out the poor individuals concerned?
They give their time in the defence of others, or in defence of freedom, and for what?

Had a slightly simmilar thing quite a few years ago, stood in a cue for the pictures, when a couple of spastic lads came up the cue and went in, the idiots in front of me (black) started acting up, and taking the pee, I couldnot help myself, I just leant inbetween them and said, 'I would rather be...' there was a small round of applause!
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Post by Telmay »

Whats wrong with Argos?

You will always get the ignorant and those that don't think before opening their trap, and yes Feva soldiers do follow orders and go where they are told, however it's a big misconception that they don't want to be there, after all chance to do the job you trained for and much better than being sat on your arse in Colchester or Aldershot or some other god forsaken garrison town - its a squaddie thing and very hard for civvies to understand.
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I have a huge amount of respect for the Armed forces...

I'm not talking about the politics of war, but I think you'll find anybody who will make a comment like that about the forces is just a spineless piece of crap who would roll over and give in to anybody.

Some folk go into the military for the wrong reason - think it's a cushy number and a roof over their head and warm food. But once they been there a while the change is something else.

These guys will risk their own life for their mates without even thinking for a second.

LOL - And that's not the same as piling in to help your mate after you've had a few beers
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it wasnt some kid either it was a middle aged bloke!
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Nope - I think you'll find it was a middle aged t*at...
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its a rare soilder who wants to go to the battle field, i dont it would be so much of a issue if they were given the right kit before they go out, i done some work for a women, who's boybriend is a captain in 3 para, i asked him if its like it is in the news about the difference between the uk and usa, he told me its unbelivable, the yanks have every little thing they need plus ten more, and that any chance they get, they borrow stuff of the yanks.
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its a rare soilder who wants to go to the battle field

Sounds mad, but I have mates who go and enjoy doing their craft, and others who get hacked off, including myself when they don't go, as I said its a squaddie thing, and yeah kit issues suck, at least now they get decent bergans my faithful roc cost about £90, and army issue boots are a real bitch :lol:
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feva wrote: the soilders dont ask to go out there, there only following orders, they wouldnt want to go to war if they had the choice, its the goverment that sends them out there yet the soilders get the grief for it,
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That is so true feva, when they signed up to join the british forces, they sign to protect thier queen, and thier borders, not to be sent into a foreign country that really has nothing to do with them.

I too have a son who is over in iraq, this is his third time in Iraq, and he and his regiment dont want to be there, but they have too, if and when they start pulling them out, they know that they will have to go to afghanstan instead. :angryfire:
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feva wrote: i dont it would be so much of a issue if they were given the right kit before they go out, .
Not only that, but if there kit goes missing or stolen, they have to replace it out of thier own pockets. :angryfire:
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I used to think it was only old men who became grumpy.

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This is starting to wind me up a bit now, anyone with an ounce of sense who has joined the Armed forces in the last 15 years must expect to take part in action, its not all about adventure training and jolly walks in the country. FFS its the British Army, and its no good winging on about the government - thats never changed throughout history, politicians start it armed forces sort it.

But its Afghanistan, its Iraq - nobody was moaning too much about the Balkans, Northern Ireland or the Falklands.

When you join the forces you know what you getting into, do I have a different mind set or something? Soldiers train to fight wars, be those wars anywhere the Queen or her government decide to fight them. Cant do the job leave, don't have the minerals then forget about signing up.
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telmay i think part of it come from the lack of kit, you join the british army yes you take the risk, but lets at least give them the kit the need and desevre, could you imgine losing someone close to you cos they didnt have the right kit, while the goverment minsters are voting for a 2.8% pay rise above inflation?

if you do join a army then yes expect to go to war theres no doubt about it, but could you imgine going into the field where people want to kill you and not having the right bit of kit to save you or mates life, i just think its a bit out of order
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Nothing's changed since Kipling's day:

I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o'beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:

O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's ``Thank you, Mister Atkins,'' when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's ``Thank you, Mr. Atkins,'' when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!

For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.

Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy how's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints:
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;

While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind,"
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.

For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country," when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
But Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees!
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