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New Kitchen
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:28 pm
by Blakey
New kitchen has arrived
and has raised a few questions.
I know where everything is going and where to start from previous questions asked.
So here we go:
There are no brackets supplied for fixing the floor units to the wall? is there a proper bracket and way of fixing.
I have a 600x300 larder/broom cupboard with one fixed shelf, I need to cut 130mm off the back for it to sit into a recess. what is the best way to tackle this and with what
Circular, Jig, Handsaw etc?.
Where two units or more sit side by side,on the old kitchen(14 yrs ago) there were special two part screw fixings,and pre drilled holes to join them together,nothing supplied with this kitchen and no pre drilled holes, ?.
I'm sure there will be many more questions to follow but these will do for starters
Re: New Kitchen
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:18 pm
by philprime
I would use this for fixing base units to wall
Re: New Kitchen
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:21 pm
by philprime
Cutting your unit down I would use a circular saw
I normally fix cabinets together with a couple of screws behind the hinge plate but I'm sure other will come up with different ideas
Re: New Kitchen
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:22 pm
by ayjay
Blakey wrote:New kitchen has arrived
and has raised a few questions.
I know where everything is going and where to start from previous questions asked.
So here we go:
There are no brackets supplied for fixing the floor units to the wall? is there a proper bracket and way of fixing.
There will be two tiny angle brackets in each bag of fittings with each carcass.
I have a 600x300 larder/broom cupboard with one fixed shelf, I need to cut 130mm off the back for it to sit into a recess. what is the best way to tackle this and with what
Circular, Jig, Handsaw etc?.
Whatever is easiest for you. How neat does it need to be? ( i.e. how much of it will be seen) Will there be a groove for the cupboard back to re-cut?
Where two units or more sit side by side,on the old kitchen(14 yrs ago) there were special two part screw fixings,and pre drilled holes to join them together,nothing supplied with this kitchen and no pre drilled holes, ?.
Clamp them together and fix with screws, I always try and hide the screws behind the hinges.
I'm sure there will be many more questions to follow but these will do for starters
Re: New Kitchen
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:47 pm
by Blakey
Larder cut and fitted, no brackets supplied in any of the units other than the larder, so will get some tomorrow.
Carpenter/kitchen fitter (friend of the family) came round today to have a look at fitting worktops, said I cant have a masons mitre joint as the angle is too great and there would be a gap at the front of the worktop
is this correct?
Re: New Kitchen
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:37 pm
by philprime
It is possible to cut a out of square masons mitre
Some Worktop jigs are designed to allow a few degrees out, or a standard jig can be used with careful messurement
What is the angle?
Re: New Kitchen
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:06 pm
by Blakey
Not sure what the angle is but a 50p piece fits into the corner perfectly.
Next question; I am fitting a cupboard over the boiler, are there any rules/regs etc that have to be followed ?
Re: New Kitchen
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:36 pm
by Blakey
Back again
My kitchen plan shows end panels fitted either side of free standing washing machine and cooker,are they just cut to size and screwed to the units either side of the cooker, in the case of the washing machine, on one side there is an integrated dish washer, on the other side there is nothing, do i need to fix something to the underside of the worktop and to the floor to secure the panels ?
Re: New Kitchen
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:51 pm
by ayjay
Blakey wrote:
Next question; I am fitting a cupboard over the boiler, are there any rules/regs etc that have to be followed ?
You have to leave enough room for any panels on the boiler to be removed to allow access for servicing - any dimensions should be in the fitting instructions for the boiler.
Blakey wrote:Back again
My kitchen plan shows end panels fitted either side of free standing washing machine and cooker,are they just cut to size and screwed to the units either side of the cooker, in the case of the washing machine, on one side there is an integrated dish washer, on the other side there is nothing, ................................................... do i need to fix something to the underside of the worktop and to the floor to secure the panels ?
Yes just cut to size and screwed to the units either side - screwed from inside the units.
Small angle bracket at the top - you can do the same at the bottom if you want - my usual method is to put a brass screw in the bottom, leave about 15mm protruding, then cut the head off and drop it into a hole in the floor with a bit of silicone or gripfill.
Re: New Kitchen
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:44 pm
by CarpenterChris
Blakey wrote:Not sure what the angle is but a 50p piece fits into the corner perfectly.
Next question; I am fitting a cupboard over the boiler, are there any rules/regs etc that have to be followed ?
It'll be in the booklet that came with the boiler, if you've lost it, there's a few posted in the Plumbing section of this forum, or just google for (boilername/brand) manual
you also need to determine if the boiler draws air from the room it's in, or from outside, if it draws air from the room you'll need to add vents to the bottom/top of the cupboard
Re: New Kitchen
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:26 pm
by royaloakcarpentry
You can do a masons mitre at any angle the tops join at. Even if they form a V when joined.
Once jigfs don't work with the pegs then it is down to the carpenter to have the skill to use the jig by setting out manually or doing the cuts free hand.
Re: New Kitchen
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:09 pm
by Blakey
Carpenter had a rethink when he arrived, spent a lot of time measuring and fitted worktops using masons mitres on all joints
As this is a galley kitchen, and limited for space, I am thinking of buying a 800 x 330 wall unit and fitting it as a floor unit, with a piece of worktop cut slightly wider than 330 and fitted on top. all the worktops cut by the carpenter were done with a router and have no damage to the work surface, so next question is would I be better doing the same when cutting down worktop.
I have a dewalt dw712 mitre saw with original blade, what type of blade should buy to cut the mitres for the wall unit plynths.
Re: New Kitchen
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:43 pm
by philprime
I use a 60 or 80 tooth blade on my mitre saw depending on what the plinths are made of