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Tiling job not gone well....
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:23 pm
by lincolnbodger
Hi...
I've started a tiling job... had to work around moving furniture as storage space in my flat is at a premium, so had to do the room in quarters, and couldn't 'layout' my tiles to start with.. I've done 2 quarters but the 3rd isn't matching up well, has anyone any advise???.... feel a plonker as it's gone messy...
Would you advise pulling the tiles up and starting again? If so, what is the best way to bring up the tiles I have already layed?...
Re: Tiling job not gone well....
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:29 pm
by royaloakcarpentry
Wall...Floor....Both.....Pictures would be good
Re: Tiling job not gone well....
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:38 pm
by lincolnbodger
royaloakcarpentry wrote:Wall...Floor....Both.....Pictures would be good
doh.. sorry....
Floor tiles, they are ceramic, layed onto an existing vynl fllor..
Re: Tiling job not gone well....
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:41 pm
by lincolnbodger
lincolnbodger wrote:royaloakcarpentry wrote:Wall...Floor....Both.....Pictures would be good
doh.. sorry....
Floor tiles, they are ceramic, layed onto an existing vynl fllor..
Will take a photo tommorow in the daylight..
Re: Tiling job not gone well....
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:50 pm
by royaloakcarpentry
Depends how bad, bad actually is.
Sometimes tiling is not about straight lines, due to tile quality, but about straight blocks.
It takes experience and actually seeing the job, but you may be able to lay this 3rd quarter in a grid to bring it back on track. In essence you lay the tiles slightly out of square to bring them back into being square so that the 4th quarter matches the two quartes it is bordering.
Hope that makes sense..............probably not lol.
The tiles may be a right pig to get up and will or should break. The adhesive should be rapid set and this will be or should be a bstard to get up. So the above option makes the best sense, if it is possible.
Re: Tiling job not gone well....
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:56 pm
by lincolnbodger
royaloakcarpentry wrote:Depends how bad, bad actually is.
Sometimes tiling is not about straight lines, due to tile quality, but about straight blocks.
It takes experience and actually seeing the job, but you may be able to lay this 3rd quarter in a grid to bring it back on track. In essence you lay the tiles slightly out of square to bring them back into being square so that the 4th quarter matches the two quartes it is bordering.
Hope that makes sense..............probably not lol.
The tiles may be a right pig to get up and will or should break. The adhesive should be rapid set and this will be or should be a bstard to get up. So the above option makes the best sense, if it is possible.
Hi, yeah that makes sense, kinda tried to do that I think, but seems to be getting worse as the tiles are'nt a perfect size, but i'm finding these last lot are getting closer and closer together... :-(
Re: Tiling job not gone well....
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:03 pm
by royaloakcarpentry
You probably need to go onto a normal setting cement based adhesive then. It will give you more working time, although the tiles will still bond quickly. You will be able to move them after 10 minutes with a bit of force though.
Re: Tiling job not gone well....
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:57 am
by haveagohero
Tiles laid onto vinyl? sorry they will last 5minutes, might as well rip them up now and get someone in to prep the floor properly and tile it
Re: Tiling job not gone well....
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:23 am
by Colour Republic
haveagohero wrote:Tiles laid onto vinyl? sorry they will last 5minutes, might as well rip them up now and get someone in to prep the floor properly and tile it
yeah that was my first thought!
Think ROC must have skim read that bit!
Re: Tiling job not gone well....
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:57 pm
by royaloakcarpentry
I did miss that bit and it wasn't in the original info.
May not be as bad as it seems. Some peoples vinyl is in fact stuck like 5hit to a blanket linoleum or Marley tiles, which you can tile over.
Re: Tiling job not gone well....
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:53 am
by lincolnbodger
Hi all .. thanks for the comments...
Bit the bullet and decided to rip them up... they all came up fine so only have a bit of adhesive to get off some tiles... have pulled up the plastic tiles underneath so now have a fresh floor to restart on... does anyone have a tip for getting old adhesive off tiles? I've read soaking in hot water does the trick?...
thanks
Re: Tiling job not gone well....
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:25 pm
by royaloakcarpentry
Soaking in water is for tubbed adhesive and you shouldn't have been using that.
Cement based addy will not soak off.
You need to grind it off.
Re: Tiling job not gone well....
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:00 pm
by haveagohero
Read up on prepping the floor underneath too, a bouncy floor will mean cracked and or debonding tiles. Tiling's easy isn't it! haha