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Compact Flourescents, Green stuff, blah blah, blah...

Post by davek0974 »

Ok i'm going to throw all my grumps into one post, see if we cant stir things up, here goes...

Compact flourescents:- They're plugging these quite hard now, even giving them away in B&Q, lower wattage, same output blah blah. But they omitted to tell you about the horrendous power factor of these things, as low as 0.45 :shock:

So although your leccy meter will spin less, the power company will have to generate more and therefore put the unit cost UP to compensate, this will come straight back to the consumer and your bill will probably end up the same :cussing: and polution created probably wont drop either.

Why dont someone do their homework BEFORE trying to change the world to see if it actually makes sense. You still cant dim them properly either, accidentally putting one in a dimmer socket is a good way to start a fire! And they chuck out a lot of RF noise too and contain mercury.

As to cleaning up the world...

If you were charged with the task of cleaning this mess up, surely it would make most sense to clean up the biggest polluters first? i.e. China and so on. Why pick on the UK and make it seem as though we are wrecking the planet? On a globe or map, the UK is a tiny spot no bigger than a fingernail but apparently, we need to reduce our emissions so much that we cant have plasma tv's, we cant afford petrol anymore, we have to build houses that need to only take crap CFL's(see above) and even if we had an industry we probably couldnt use it due to our 'massive' pollution output.

If they sorted out our immigration and tightened up on our border controls, there wouldn't be as many people, therefore less polution and we could appear greener :grin:

I think the whole CFL thing is a false start, it needs some serious research doing, soon.

I'm going to lock myself in the cupboard under the stairs now to reduce my emmissions :lol:

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Tend to agree mate. Most of the CFL's are made in China anyway so they will continue with their pollution whilst we try to stop ours. Now where did I park my 4x4? :scratch:

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And what about all the methane emitted from cows. :lol:
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Remember when we had all those smoking chimneys on textile mills, foundries, and other kinds of factories. We now have cleaner air, but the chimneys are all in India and China. They are fouling up their environs to provide our vendors with cheaper products. Do we help them to clean up their industries, or do we have the industries back over here?
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This is a global problem, shifting it from one continent to the next dont make it go away, its just brushing it under the carpet. Carbon offsetting is just a load of b*llocks.

Every developed country should be assisting in some way, nobody 'asked' china to take over the world, we just let them march in and do it. This country could be self sufficient. Get the industries back over here if they wont accept help in cleaning up their act, make the industries cleaner. Then if they still refuse to clean up, cut them out of the supply chain by not buying any of their product, then see how fast they change their ways. I dont mean mean just a few people stop buying chinese crap, i mean a few COUNTRIES stop importing it. They will surely wake up and smell the grass once their docks are overloaded with their crappy produce.
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