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Adhesive and Grout choice?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:25 am
by superdon
Some advice please.....

i am doing some tiling in the kitchen and the bathroom. I have ordered some Zanzibar 10x10cm wavy edge tiles for the kitchen in the lighter (beige and white) colours. For the bathroom, some Grespania Galaca 40x25cm in the light blanco colour. Both are ceramic tiles. All areas have already got tiles on and are well stuck. I am going to remove some tiles, but am planning to tile over some as well (I know...). It's about 6 metre area in bathroom and same in the kitchen.

Adhesive
What adhesive is best and approx how much? Hopefully I can use one large bag for both areas?
I was thinking of Weber Set Plus.

Grout
same as above really? I am thinking white is best for both rooms?
Was thinking of either Mapei Ultracolour Plus or a Weber grout.

Trims
Homelux ones ok? I would prefer these as they seem easily available. I have B&Q, homebase, topps tiles very easily accessible and I think they stock this stuff? My wife thinks cream colour for the kitchen to match the beige colours and white for the bathroom. Do Topps sell all the different sizes and corner pieces etc?

any help would be appreciated.

Re: Adhesive and Grout choice?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:29 pm
by superdon
Anyone offer any advice?

Re: Adhesive and Grout choice?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:18 pm
by kave
Adhesive, any cement based bagged up flexible. Never any premixed crap.

Grout, just done 20m2 of Mapei Ultracolour Plus - fantastic stuff! Use small batches tho - goes off in 15mins

Re: Adhesive and Grout choice?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:34 pm
by DIY_Johnny
just to let you know, as a DIYer, I would avoid the rapidset stuff, I work waaaay too slow and for me waiting 8 hours or the next day to walk on the tiles was not an issue

Also never understood why people use readymix if doing a whole bathroom, its simple to mix the stuff yourself. You can get a paddle mixer from screwfix for a fiver.

I found topps tiles dear for everything. Both my local buildlers yards have all the professional stuff and a lot cheaper. The trimlux was about 60% of the price in homebase and comes in 3m (I think) lengths

Re: Adhesive and Grout choice?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:52 pm
by superdon
Cheers.

Spoke to Mapei today and they suggest Kiraflex or Kiraquick for the adhesive and Ultracolour for the grout. Think I will just go that route.

Cheers.

Re: Adhesive and Grout choice?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:10 pm
by DIY_Johnny
you might want to ask the lads here about primer useful for the substrate. I use bal SBR on ply, had to take one tile up a week later and god it was stuck rock hard

I can never remember the difference between sbr and apd

Re: Adhesive and Grout choice?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:47 pm
by darrenba
superdon wrote:Cheers.

Spoke to Mapei today and they suggest Kiraflex or Kiraquick for the adhesive and Ultracolour for the grout. Think I will just go that route.

Cheers.
Don't go with Keraquick - it's a rapid set. Keraflex should be fine though.

Re: Adhesive and Grout choice?

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:54 am
by superdon
I know Keraquick is the rapid stuff, but the Keraflex recommends 2 weeks time to use which seems a long time.

Read somewhere that Keraquick isnt actually too rapid so is a good comprimise?

Re: Adhesive and Grout choice?

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:04 pm
by Colour Republic
Where have you read that? Keraflex can take light traffic after 8 hours, grouted after 24. You could be mistaking that some adhesives can take up to 2 weeks to fully cure but are useable after 24h i.e. 90 strentgh after 24-48hours but 100% after 2 weeks

Or maybe you are confusing it with grout as some grouts say not to use a shower for 2 weeks after application.

Re: Keraquick, it all depends on how quick you are! Somebody with experiance will have no problems with it but if you only tile now and again it will most likely be too quick for you, or you'll end up mixing loads of small batches which is time consuming in itself

Re: Adhesive and Grout choice?

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:14 pm
by superdon
http://www.mapei.com/AU-EN/Products-for ... s/KERAFLEX

Says 14 days.

Ok, so Keraflex or Keraflex Maxi? Would only be slightly more for the maxi.