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which cordless nail gun is best

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:25 pm
by honeymonster
Hi,

Has anyone used the cordless nail guns, like the dewalt framing nailer or the paslode nail guns?

The paslode look good but I am put off by the cost of the fuel cells, dewalt uses only a battery, but I would like to know which is the best all round nail gun.

I have used a nail gun but it was one that connected to a compressor, noisy as hell but very fast and powerful, fired annular ring nails in for fun!

Your thoughts and comments please


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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:45 pm
by Gadget
I know this is a late reply, but I have a Paslode framing nailer and it's the bee's knees!!

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:23 am
by honeymonster
Thanks Gadget.

I still have not bought one yet, but I will check out the paslode for sure!

Cheers

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:50 pm
by Gadget
honeymonster wrote:Thanks Gadget.

I still have not bought one yet, but I will check out the paslode for sure!

Cheers
Probably the best and cheapest place to buy one is....Max Wilson of Byker, Stoddart street I think!!

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:25 pm
by panlid
the dewalt is not a framing nailer. it only does up to 2 1/2 16g brads. the only 2 available are a passy and a new hitachi. shame its green though :wink:

sencond fix cordless to my knowledge are, senco airfree, dewalt, paslode 250 and draper. no others spring to mind

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:12 pm
by Paslode_itw
Paslode is the best gun out there for framing.

The cells are not expensive, they come with the nails. If you need more your doing something wrong :wink:

Dewalt is a tad heavy and i prefer the im250 :grin:

Orange rules

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:31 pm
by carhartt kid
Hi.

I'm a chippy working down in the south west (oooooaaaaarrr) A couple of years ago I went over to the USA (Orange County/South LA) and through a friend, was introduced to a well respected carpenter. He invited me on site to see how they work over there, and boy was I shocked. The rate at which US chippy's work is amazing. Mostly down to their tool systems and the fact that everything is timber skinned and framed.

I came home having purchased a 16Gague Paslode straight finish nailer as a bit of a treat (it was a bargain @ £160). I started using it straight away, boxing panels, skirting, picture rails, dado’s and door surrounds (the list is endless).

Almost immediately I was shocked at how quickly I was finishing jobs (and how deaf I’d gone) I quite honestly was knocking hours off my week. What did you say mate????

Oh and invest in a cleaning kit and service regularly. I've never had a nail jam or a misfire only a few nervous moments when my first fuel cell ran out.

So I forked out the cash for a Paslode framing nailer. Timber studs in a fraction of the time, decking and fences a doddle. Heavier and a bit more noise...Great?? But earplugs solved all that....What????? Mmmmm feel the power…

Yes the nail packs do seem dear at first but they last bloody ages, as well as the batteries and fuel cells. I've built up a bit of a selection of other brand 16g finish nails, and Paslode now sell mini boxes of finish nails without the fuel cells.

Framing nails are quite expensive, and its a bugger when your battery goes flat while up on a roof or scaff. So nowadays for jobs that are major framing tasks I use a compressor and gun set-up by DeWalt.

I use a Full Round head DeWalt 51845 nailer. AKA the BEAST, I bought it in the USA for £140, but its available over here. This machine fires and countersinks a clip of 65 x 40-90mm nails at such a rate it’s sickening.

Run off Dw55145 compressor, it operates fine. After a while you forget the compressor is there and then suddenly it charges. Scares the beans outta you.

I bought a load of other bits with the compressor and use it for spraying, airbrushing, orbital sanding and light chiselling. So it does a lot of different jobs really.

As for other set ups. The DeWalt cordless finish nailer, I feel, is too heavy and feels unbalanced. The hitachi i've yet to fondle, but it may just be all show and no go.

The Spit and the Hilti are too expensive for the DIY’er and are for serious Pro applications (nailing to steelwork / electrical conduit erection). The Stanley Bostich range is the dogs’ nads too, but for dedicated professionals that will see many hours of work. As for ferm and more budget models. They are fine for DIY or workshop use, but I wouldn’t rely on them commercially.

Generally. Paslode is the market leader for cordless nailers. I'd swear by them religiously. I'm upgrading to the new Paslode framer soon from the USA and I’ll be getting it off of e-bay. Fingers crossed.

Re: Orange rules

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:15 pm
by honeymonster
carhartt kid wrote:Hi.

I'm a chippy working down in the south west (oooooaaaaarrr) A couple of years ago I went over to the USA (Orange County/South LA) and through a friend, was introduced to a well respected carpenter. He invited me on site to see how they work over there, and boy was I shocked. The rate at which US chippy's work is amazing. Mostly down to their tool systems and the fact that everything is timber skinned and framed.

I came home having purchased a 16Gague Paslode straight finish nailer as a bit of a treat (it was a bargain @ £160). I started using it straight away, boxing panels, skirting, picture rails, dado’s and door surrounds (the list is endless).

Almost immediately I was shocked at how quickly I was finishing jobs (and how deaf I’d gone) I quite honestly was knocking hours off my week. What did you say mate????

Oh and invest in a cleaning kit and service regularly. I've never had a nail jam or a misfire only a few nervous moments when my first fuel cell ran out.

So I forked out the cash for a Paslode framing nailer. Timber studs in a fraction of the time, decking and fences a doddle. Heavier and a bit more noise...Great?? But earplugs solved all that....What????? Mmmmm feel the power…

Yes the nail packs do seem dear at first but they last bloody ages, as well as the batteries and fuel cells. I've built up a bit of a selection of other brand 16g finish nails, and Paslode now sell mini boxes of finish nails without the fuel cells.

Framing nails are quite expensive, and its a bugger when your battery goes flat while up on a roof or scaff. So nowadays for jobs that are major framing tasks I use a compressor and gun set-up by DeWalt.

I use a Full Round head DeWalt 51845 nailer. AKA the BEAST, I bought it in the USA for £140, but its available over here. This machine fires and countersinks a clip of 65 x 40-90mm nails at such a rate it’s sickening.

Run off Dw55145 compressor, it operates fine. After a while you forget the compressor is there and then suddenly it charges. Scares the beans outta you.

I bought a load of other bits with the compressor and use it for spraying, airbrushing, orbital sanding and light chiselling. So it does a lot of different jobs really.

As for other set ups. The DeWalt cordless finish nailer, I feel, is too heavy and feels unbalanced. The hitachi i've yet to fondle, but it may just be all show and no go.

The Spit and the Hilti are too expensive for the DIY’er and are for serious Pro applications (nailing to steelwork / electrical conduit erection). The Stanley Bostich range is the dogs’ nads too, but for dedicated professionals that will see many hours of work. As for ferm and more budget models. They are fine for DIY or workshop use, but I wouldn’t rely on them commercially.

Generally. Paslode is the market leader for cordless nailers. I'd swear by them religiously. I'm upgrading to the new Paslode framer soon from the USA and I’ll be getting it off of e-bay. Fingers crossed.
That is the best tool review I have ever read :thumbleft:

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:32 pm
by carhartt kid
Thanks...

I'm a bit of a tool freak. I'm slightly obsessed to be honest.... In fact i droppeed my favorite tool shop today and had a grope over the Hitachi framing nailer.

Its just a copy of the Paslode but with a different plastic casing. It even takes the same nails and fuel cells... I wouldn't be surprised if Paslode lawyers have had a bloody good look at it. Or even Paslode may have sold an older spec to Hitachi.

DeWalt did this with a mid/late 90's 18v hammer. Just before the XRP stuff came out. The model was reproduced but in a different casing and inferior brushes etc... Well thats what i was told anyhows..Don't quote me Mr DeWalt...

Re: Orange rules

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:49 pm
by Paslode_itw
carhartt kid wrote:Hi.

I'm a chippy working down in the south west (oooooaaaaarrr) A couple of years ago I went over to the USA (Orange County/South LA) and through a friend, was introduced to a well respected carpenter. He invited me on site to see how they work over there, and boy was I shocked. The rate at which US chippy's work is amazing. Mostly down to their tool systems and the fact that everything is timber skinned and framed.

I came home having purchased a 16Gague Paslode straight finish nailer as a bit of a treat (it was a bargain @ £160). I started using it straight away, boxing panels, skirting, picture rails, dado’s and door surrounds (the list is endless).

Almost immediately I was shocked at how quickly I was finishing jobs (and how deaf I’d gone) I quite honestly was knocking hours off my week. What did you say mate????

Oh and invest in a cleaning kit and service regularly. I've never had a nail jam or a misfire only a few nervous moments when my first fuel cell ran out.

So I forked out the cash for a Paslode framing nailer. Timber studs in a fraction of the time, decking and fences a doddle. Heavier and a bit more noise...Great?? But earplugs solved all that....What????? Mmmmm feel the power…

Yes the nail packs do seem dear at first but they last bloody ages, as well as the batteries and fuel cells. I've built up a bit of a selection of other brand 16g finish nails, and Paslode now sell mini boxes of finish nails without the fuel cells.

Framing nails are quite expensive, and its a bugger when your battery goes flat while up on a roof or scaff. So nowadays for jobs that are major framing tasks I use a compressor and gun set-up by DeWalt.

I use a Full Round head DeWalt 51845 nailer. AKA the BEAST, I bought it in the USA for £140, but its available over here. This machine fires and countersinks a clip of 65 x 40-90mm nails at such a rate it’s sickening.

Run off Dw55145 compressor, it operates fine. After a while you forget the compressor is there and then suddenly it charges. Scares the beans outta you.

I bought a load of other bits with the compressor and use it for spraying, airbrushing, orbital sanding and light chiselling. So it does a lot of different jobs really.

As for other set ups. The DeWalt cordless finish nailer, I feel, is too heavy and feels unbalanced. The hitachi i've yet to fondle, but it may just be all show and no go.

The Spit and the Hilti are too expensive for the DIY’er and are for serious Pro applications (nailing to steelwork / electrical conduit erection). The Stanley Bostich range is the dogs’ nads too, but for dedicated professionals that will see many hours of work. As for ferm and more budget models. They are fine for DIY or workshop use, but I wouldn’t rely on them commercially.

Generally. Paslode is the market leader for cordless nailers. I'd swear by them religiously. I'm upgrading to the new Paslode framer soon from the USA and I’ll be getting it off of e-bay. Fingers crossed.
Paslode have the best cordless nailguns on the market!

Compressors are no good for roofing, trailing a compressor about and air houses etc. No thanks.

If you buy nails in bulk, mix orders....framing nails and finish nails, it does cut the cost.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:24 pm
by Gadget
I did a small fencing job today, and I'd forgotten how much time my Paslode framing nailer saves. I had the job down for a full day.......I was finished at 12.30!

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:54 am
by carhartt kid
A DeWalt Framing Nailer run off a compressor is by far a quicker and cheaper tool to operate than a Paslode framer. You cant "bump fire" a Paslode Framer as far as i know. It takes a second or two to re-charge!!

Ok, i agee with you about the hose and compressor. I've a 50ft hose (he boasts) and i usually leave the compressor in a dust free corner for most of a job and trail the hose around with me. Which isn't usually that far!! The nailer is only slightly lighter that the Palsode, but has less that can go wrong with it. ie. electrical components, battery, gas etc.

I once used my DeWalt for three days in the rain. I was sticking up a load of trusses for a big developer (bosses made us work in any weather, it was a joke). I hid the compressor on a few pallets under a B&Q £15 gazeebo and a tarp on the scaff and ran either a 50ft or a 25ft hose to each wall plate. The other chippys that used Paslode's had to resort to using the old fashioned hammers and brute force. By the second day the boss had rented a bigger compressor and got two framing nailers.. Lets just say, when the sun came out, some of it went a bit wonky and twisted...But thats another story all together...

Having said all this. I'm buying a Paslode soon, as I recon it will just compliment what tools i have already. There is a place for both i feel. You just can't have too many tools.

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:38 pm
by Paslode_itw
I cant agree with you more that you cant have enough tools :lol: :wink:

You can fire 2 nails a second with the Paslode im350, do NOT use out of date gas (blue tubes tend to be out of date now...use orange red ring tubes)

If you go onto any site today you will not find someone arsing about with a compressor. All Paslode. Most sites provide nails and gas nowadays.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:06 pm
by dirtydeeds
the hitachi gun is total rubbish in comparison to the paslode 350

one and only reason

unless you are left handed you cant put it on your tool belt