Record woodworking vise

Jonno34 · Post by **Jonno34** » Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:44 am

Hi

I have acquired a woodwork vise a Record No 52E, It is second hand and is missing the screws that hold the "soft jaws". They are not M8 so am assuming they are a BSW or UNC thread and being c/sunk I will have to order from somewhere.

Anyone give ma a clue as to size please?

TIA

Someone-Else · Post by **Someone-Else** » Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:23 pm

You probably never found any information on line because you have spelt "vice" wrong.

I did look on line there are several sites offering information about them. (Also YT videos)

Good luck.

Dave54 · Post by **Dave54** » Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:31 pm

The front jaws are held on with woodscrews. The back one are Whitworth IIRC from when I fitted the jaws to mine.
Use a drill shank as a gauge to fit through the "minor diameter of the the thread, or measure it with calipers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_S ... _Whitworth

As said above though there seems to be plenty of info online.

Jonno34 · Post by **Jonno34** » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:52 pm

Dave54 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:31 pm The front jaws are held on with woodscrews. The back one are Whitworth IIRC from when I fitted the jaws to mine.
Use a drill shank as a gauge to fit through the "minor diameter of the the thread, or measure it with calipers.
<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_S ... orth</span>

As said above though there seems to be plenty of info online.

Thanks Dave 54 for your helpful response. M8 goes in half a turn so I am going to work on the chart you sent a link for and go for 5/16th, I also have a screw that fits that also fits a 5/16th die but as it came from a 1969 Ford I assumed UNC. The fit however did not feel perfect.

There is a lot of information on line both under Vice and Vise which is the US spelling but I was unable to find reference as to the thread size. Incidentally both plates have threaded holes.

Dave54 · Post by **Dave54** » Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:30 pm

According to my thread tables 5/16" Whitworth and UNC are the same pitch and major diameter. The form is a little bit different, UNC is a flat top on the threads, Whitworth is rounded. Again plenty of tables online.
I'd not be 100% sure of any particular thread being used on British motors back in the 60s! I'm sure I've come across oddities.
Are they door hinge fastening bolts you have? I seem to remember them being a coarse thread around that size.

Good luck with it. They're a good vice.

arco_iris · Post by **arco_iris** » Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:46 pm

Dave54 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:30 pm They're a good vice.

Is there any such thing? Sex, drugs, tobacco, alcohol & porn are the ones that come to mind......

Jonno34 · Post by **Jonno34** » Mon Jul 05, 2021 5:13 am

Dave54 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:30 pm According to my thread tables 5/16" Whitworth and UNC are the same pitch and major diameter. The form is a little bit different, UNC is a flat top on the threads, Whitworth is rounded. Again plenty of tables online.
I'd not be 100% sure of any particular thread being used on British motors back in the 60s! I'm sure I've come across oddities.
Are they door hinge fastening bolts you have? I seem to remember them being a coarse thread around that size.

Good luck with it. They're a good vice.

It has got some weird mixtures of threads on it to be honest.

Job and Knock · Post by **Job and Knock** » Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:36 pm

arco_iris wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:46 pm
Dave54 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:30 pm They're a good vice.
Is there any such thing? Sex, drugs, tobacco, alcohol & porn are the ones that come to mind......

Only because they're the only ones you've tried so far...